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  • Hello, a Bangladeshi here. Let me explain what happened so you have a better understanding:

    “Bangladesh has actually been doing pretty well in the past decade, no?”

    No, not at all. It’s still one of the least developed country with one of the most corrupted governments. Development is very slow and very unsteady. And if any development actually happens, 90% of the money goes to the politicians, only 10% to actual development.

    “but the stuff I’ve read indicated that she was actually quite popular”

    You read her propaganda. She’s not popular at all, most ordinary people despised her. In her rule, the elections have been more fixed than pro wrestling. No democracy what so ever. There were rampant oppression upon anyone who dares to even slightly criticize the government. They regularly detained the supporters of opposition parties for no reason. She was a autocrat hiding behind a mere facade of democracy.

    They have a student wing called Chattra League. They are nothing short of a terrorist group. Look them up on Wikipedia, there’s an entire article on Wikipedia about their violence alone. They have murdered, raped, tortured, ran forced prostitution rings, etc. Just in 2019, they beat a uni student to death in campus for criticizing the government’s relationship with India in a Facebook post. They also attacked the protestors during the quota movement.

    “there’s the distinct possibility that this is a military coup disguised as a popular insurrection.”

    That is absolutely not true. For one, the current army chief is her relative. And she killed most of army generals with actual backbones that can do such a thing in a staged mutiny in 2009.

    Also the whole thing started from student protests, and when the government (the police, and the military) started shooting and mass detaining everyone, other people joined in too. 300+ deaths is a very, very conservative estimate. A truer number is probably as high as 1000+. And when that many people gets killed, it’s hard to stay silent anymore. People from literally everywhere in country started protesting as a response. This was, by all sense, the movement of people. It was the people that were in the streets. It was the people that led it, it was the people that stormed her residence. The military had nothing to do with it other than the murders.

    “Riots caused by court rulings don’t usually topple prime ministers”

    Yeah it usually doesn’t. But after almost two decades of violent oppression, that protest was just a nucleation point for a mass movement against the regime that was a long time coming. That was the tipping point, the point when enough was enough. It only seems off because you are missing the whole context.












  • Nah, it’s a religious group. But a state where only a particular religious group is given dominant control, power, resources etc is still called an ethnostate, there’s no distinct term. See Northern Ireland for example, many scholars considered it an ethnostate because historically Protestants were given dominance, as opposed to the Catholics who faced many discriminatory and biased policies. It’s not nearly as bad these days tho. And as for Israel, it’s definitely an ethnostate, but it extends far beyond just religion.


  • Quoting Wikipedia:

    “It has been claimed to have been built upon the site of Ram Janmabhoomi, the legendary birthplace of Rama, a principal deity of Hinduism”

    And

    “Rama (/ˈrɑːmə/; Sanskrit: राम, IAST: Rāma, Sanskrit: [ˈraːmɐ]) is a major deity in Hinduism. He is the seventh and one of the most popular avatars of Vishnu. In Rama-centric traditions of Hinduism, he is considered the Supreme Being.”

    Seems pretty deity to to me. Whichever books you’re refering to, I don’t know. Maybe he was king in some legends or myths, but he’s also a deity worshipped by many.

    Also, yes it’s possible that they did destroy the temple at Ayodhya tho (assuming the structure was indeed a temple), there’s no denying. But at the same it, there’s no concrete evidence either. And without any concrete evidence, destroying that mosque was no different than destroying any temple. Both equally bullshit.


  • The mosque was named Babri Masjid and was in Ayodhya, India. It was built in 1528–29 and destroyed in 1992 by Hindu nationalists, claiming it was the birthplace of Rama, a major deity of Hinduism. According to Hindu nationalists, there once was a fort there known as Ramkot which was allegedly destroyed during the construction of the Mosque. Subsequently, there was a short excavation on that site, only lasting 15 days. Quoting Wikipedia:

    “The report of the excavation concluded that there were the ruins of “a massive structure” beneath the ruins of the mosque which was “indicative of remains which are distinctive features found associated with the temples of north India”, but found no evidence that the structure was specifically demolished for the construction of the Babri Masjid. The report received both praise and criticism, with some other archaeologists contesting the results of the report.”

    There was another excavation later in 2003, by Archaeological Survey of India. The report indicated what appears to be the presence of a 10th-century shrine under the mosque. Again, quoting Wikipedia:

    “a short-lived structure of nearly 50 metres with north–south orientation was constructed. On the remains of this structure, another massive structure was constructed: this structure had at least three structural phases and three successive floors attached with it. The report concluded that it was over this construction that the disputed structure was constructed during the early 16th century”

    Then it also goes on to say

    “Muslim groups immediately disputed the ASI findings. The Safdar Hashmi Memorial Trust (Sahmat) criticised the report saying that it said that “presence of animal bones throughout as well as of the use of ‘surkhi’ and lime mortar” that was found by ASI are all characteristic of Muslim presence “that rule out the possibility of a Hindu temple having been there beneath the mosque.” The report claimed otherwise on the basis of ‘pillar bases’ was contested since no pillars were found, and the alleged existence of ‘pillar bases’ has been debated by archaeologists. Syed Rabe Hasan Nadvi, chairman of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) alleged that ASI failed to mention any evidence of a temple in its interim reports and only revealed it in the final report which was submitted during a time of national tension, making the report highly suspect.”

    So yeah, it’s complicated. But the thing is, the evidence of a temple isn’t entirely conclusive. And the “birthplace of Rama” is not even probable, as deities as far as we no do not exist irl. Anyway, even if there was a temple there, there’s no evidence that it was destroyed during the construction of the mosque. But whatever, because in 2010, Allahabad High Court originally gave one third of the land to Muslims to rebuilt the mosque, one third for constructing a temple and one third to a Hindu denomination which wanted to construct a temple very close to the site long before the destruction of the mosque but was denied by the court because it could potentially “threat” to public order. That was a really good solution in my opinion. All party were given something. There were compromises for both parties, but also their share.

    But then came Modi and Supreme Court decided fuck it, the entire thing belongs to Hindus for temple construction, even though they concluded that no evidence was found that the structure was specifically demolished for the construction of the Babri Masjid.

    So yeah, take it how you want to. But I take it as nationalists suppressing other groups of people. Either way, religions fucking suck and nationalism and ethnocracy sucks even more.