That doesn’t help at all. We are complicit.

No citizenship ever has been in a better position to prevent their government from doing horrible things, and yet we do nothing. We wring our hands and aren’t willing to hurt, let alone die, for what is morally right. The small arms in this country are more than enough to overwhelm the entire place. We have the numbers and the weapons and yes some would have to die. This isn’t even special though, all throughout history people have died for principles, it’s just… we don’t have any.

Sinc solo was mentioned lol.

Can you imagine China turning to a wartime economy?

China will make Japan and Taiwan look like the us made Baghdad FROM THEIR SHORES.

This whole conversation is ridiculous. China doesn’t move on Taiwan because of economic implications, not because of any threat from any outside actor. The US is on the other side of the world, Venezuela is about as big a pill as they can swallow. We failed in Korea, we failed in Vietnam. What on earth makes anyone think we can do anything in chinas civil war?

China is THE manufacturing and logistics powerhouse on this planet. That’s what wins wars and no one is even close.

“Democratically controlled” just means controlled by capitalists. I’m tired of the trope.

You are killing em in here. I appreciate you.

Taiwan itself claims to be a part of China. They claim to be the temporarily embarrassed government of China in fact.

It is an ongoing civil dispute between factions in China, of which Taiwan is a part. This is all clearly outlined in the arguments and citations above. Including yours.

You just don’t like it.

This will probably get me whacked…

Or has the historical narrative been rewritten so thoroughly, and public opinion directed so well, that… well no no we can’t say that out loud.

But I mean has this been the behavior of millennia? Does capitalism even exist in its current form without usury?

At this point I am pretty comfortable saying glass Israel. If there was a vote right now I’d say just do it. You can’t just be complicit and benefit from these horrible things and expect complete absolution. That’s pretty extreme and a worldwide ban of Israel, dissolution, a ban on any sort of theocratic or quasi-theocratic state and anything looking like it would be mandatory. I don’t think that would work in practice though, just more lies would be the result. “God promised us this land” is a mental disorder at best and more likely a blatant “you can’t outright say I am lying” high school level lie in practice.

The embarrassment and shame of being Zionist like Germany had over nazism is absolutely necessary though. I’m just not sure that was as well placed as we think. Currently we discuss the nazis persecution of Jewish people as “that’s just crazy and sick, how could anyone do such a thing” while Zion exists and is shamelessly genociding a people while overtly manipulating the gentiles as if we are animals. Is this the behavior pre ww2? Was this telegraphed? I believe so.

As a complete aside, and I am very interested and empathize with the Romani people, I am fascinated by their ability to see non Romani as (insert however they actually see us here) and include their children in their hustles. Like how do you explain to kids that it’s us against the world(literally) and we are allowed to lie and manipulate them at all costs? This thought occurred to me when I was helping a nice family who apparently had ran out of gas. The kid was doing their part with the sad eyes and all that. I would love to chat with a gypsy(with all due respect) to get some insights on their culture.

I can’t help but draw a parallel there though. Nazi persecution of peoples who see themselves as apart and those two groups overt exploitation of those who are not of their culture. Zionists simply being much more successful as of now.

I kinda see extreme measures being required to get these people(zionists) to stop being necessary. And where is the line? How is that accomplished?

I dunno but more and more being disgusted with this farce in Palestine I can’t help but reflect on this…