While we all wistfully remember shinobu, the community here has been making discussion threads for the shows we have been watching. To try to make things a bit easier, I have tried to collect all the threads for the winter seasonal shows in one place. I will try to keep this updated as things go forward. Please let me know if I am missing a thread that you would like to be added. This was done in no particular order, but I did group series together.
I would also like to point out that some shows are still having threads posted by shinobu. The shows below should stick to the discussion threads that are posted in !episode_discussion@ani.social. Each of the links below is to the most recent episode’s discussion post as of the time of this update. Older episodes’ threads can be found in the link table of the following posts.
I will keep this pinned for now to act as a hub to enable easy discovery of discussion threads for folks.
uncropped image credit: booru, full-size: 2048x2048
Episodes 1-6
| Series | Episode 1 | Episode 2 | Episode 3 | Episode 4 | Episode 5 | Episode 6 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chained Soldier | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Delicious in Dungeon | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/anime, /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/anime, /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/anime, /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi |
| The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| My Instant Death Ability is Overpowered | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Gushing Over Magical Girls | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| 7th Time Loop: The Villainess Enjoys a Carefree Life Married to Her Worst Enemy! | 1-2 | 1-2 | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Sasaki and Peeps | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Mr. Villain’s Day Off | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| 'Tis Time for “Torture,” Princess | Link | Link | — | Link | Link | Link |
| The Unwanted Undead Adventurer | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Hokkaido Gals Are Super Adorable! | Link | Link | — | Link | — | Link |
| Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I’m Not the Demon Lord | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Witch and the Beast | Link | Link | — | — | — | — |
| The Weakest Tamer Began a Journey to Pick Up Trash | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Metallic Rouge | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Classroom of the Elite Season 3 | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Solo Leveling | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| BUCCHIGIRI?! | Link | Link | Link | — | — | — |
| TSUKIMICHI -Moonlit Fantasy- Season 2 | — | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Brave Bang Bravern! | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Strongest Tank’s Labyrinth Raids | 1-4 | 1-4 | 1-4 | 1-4 | — | — |
| The Dangers in My Heart Season 2 | — | — | — | — | — | Link |
| Ninja Kamui | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
Episodes 7-12
| Series | Episode 7 | Episode 8 | Episode 9 | Episode 10 | Episode 11 | Episode 12 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Delicious in Dungeon | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi | /c/dungeonmeshi |
| Chained Soldier | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Gushing Over Magical Girls | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Classroom of the Elite Season 3 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Sasaki and Peeps | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Unwanted Undead Adventurer | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| My Instant Death Ability is Overpowered | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Solo Leveling | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Dangers in My Heart Season 2 | Link | Link | Link | — | — | — |
| 7th Time Loop: The Villainess Enjoys a Carefree Life Married to Her Worst Enemy! | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Mr. Villain’s Day Off | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| TSUKIMICHI -Moonlit Fantasy- Season 2 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I’m Not the Demon Lord | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| 'Tis Time for “Torture,” Princess | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Metallic Rouge | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Brave Bang Bravern! | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| The Weakest Tamer Began a Journey to Pick Up Trash | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| Cherry Magic! Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| MASHLE: MAGIC AND MUSCLES Season 2 | — | — | — | Link | Link | — |
| Ninja Kamui | Link | Link | — | — | — | — |
Episode 13
| Series | Episode 13 |
|---|---|
| Classroom of the Elite Season 3 | Link |
| Delicious in Dungeon | /c/dungeonmeshi |
| Gushing Over Magical Girls | Link |
| The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic | Link |
From context, including comments, I assume shinobu is a bot?
If I don’t see any posts in !episode_discussion@ani.social it’s probably because I blocked shinobu?
Currently, there is no way to block/hide/ignore episode discussions in !anime@ani.social, right?
That’s right. @shinobu@ani.social is the bot that was posting episode discussion threads in !episode_discussion@ani.social. However, shinobu hasn’t been working on the winter seasonal shows, so I have relaxed rules for this community to allow people to create threads for discussion here, at least until shinobu comes back or another solution is put in place to allow for episode discussion of currently airing shows.
Either you have blocked shinobu or you have unchecked “Show bot accounts” in your user settings. I just checked your local instance and the posts are in the community there.
I would love it if this were possible right now. Lemmy badly needs something like a post flair system that lets you only see or ignore certain flairs. I understand not everybody wants to discuss currently airing shows, so I am trying to remain sensitive to both segments of the community as best I can. This is why, in the past, episode discussion threads were separated into a different community.
I think that if we turned on a bot posting every episode discussion thread to this community (like reddit does for example), it would completely drown out everything else. There are maybe 3-4 news items on a busy day here compared to ~5-10 different episodes that air on any given day. Lemmy simply doesn’t have the volume of user-generated content (yet) to compete with a bot creating that many threads every day.
So, as a halfway point for now, I am allowing discussion threads here, but only if they are user-created. This means that any discussion thread here should have at least one actual human partaking in the conversation, compared to a deluge of threads that sit around with zero comments. Conversely, it means that people are more likely to see discussion threads that are not relevant to what they want from this community.
I am open to suggestions though if there are things we might be able to change to make things better. I can’t say I am super thrilled with the current situation.
is it due to any sort of bug?
It’s a combination of things that have led to the shinobu outage…
Shinobu is a fork of the holo project, the bot that creates all the discussion threads in the anime subreddit. The maintainers over there don’t release each new season’s config file until a little bit into each season. I assume they have a mostly complete file they use for the subreddit and let it shake out for a little bit (to catch any errors) each season before pushing the finished file to github. This means that shinobu is likely to be delayed at the beginning of each season, even if the bot maintainer is able to implement the release immediately.
Speaking of implementing the release immediately…the shinobu maintainer got super busy with irl stuff by the time the release had happened for the winter season. So, it was delayed for a while. I haven’t spoken with them in a little bit, but they had intended on merging the new season at some point. However, there is a limitation to the holo project’s design that probably caused them to hold off as the delay grew…
Namely, shinobu (because of it’s holo base) will post any and all episodes that it can find for a show in its database. This means that if the new season config file was loaded in after week 4 of the current season, it will go through and create discussion threads for episodes 1, 2, 3, and 4 for every show. This would completely kill the community’s feed as a deluge of hundreds of posts are created in just a couple minutes. So, as the weeks grew without shinobu, I am glad that the maintainer held off adding the season’s config.
All of this brings me to the future of episode discussion posts…
I wrote about it a couple weeks back in the general thread, but I am planning on a more complete write-up in the near future. Starting with next season (April 1st), there is a new bot in town with a new codebase to try to alleviate some of the issues with holo/shinobu as well as accommodate a smaller community like this one compared to the reddit community. The episode discussion threads will also be posted into this community rather than a separate one. Finally, I will personally be managing the bot so that you and I only have me to blame if something goes wrong or everybody hates it.
is it built using python or a different language?
Here’s the code. I stuck with python for two reasons:
At a very high level, I basically took holo and stripped out features I didn’t need or Lemmy doesn’t support (community polls, pinned comment, etc.) and reworked the whole thing to rely on the AniList api for airing episodes rather than parsing the html of streaming/torrent sites. This gives a much more reliable process than my testing with holo. I also added a bunch of features to make my life easier to maintain an ongoing instance of it through modules to interact with the database via the cli rather than having to write sql queries myself.
yeah that’s actually the proper way but they actually use graphql than rest api right? hope you sorted it out properly. i hope the bot works well. always happy to lend a hand (my primary language is java but i will try to pull it off).
That’s right. I managed to figure out graphql through the
requestslibrary using AniList’s docs. They are nice enough to include example queries in python, so all I really had to do was play around in their playground and craft the queries I want. I have had versions of the bot working on a test lemmy instance I host for a couple months now and I am pretty happy with it. So, I am just hoping that once everybody else starts interacting with it that nothing breaks. Most of my effort over the past couple weeks has been trying to think of ways it might get abused or broken by people and then fixing those edge cases.