• DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Japan and South Korea need to get to fucking or they need to become more open and attractive to immigration to stave off population shortfalls. There’s shitloads of south and central Americans looking for stable nations to call home, same with Africans, Middle Easterners, and south Asians, these folks are willing to serve in their militaries, contribute to their economies, and they bring fresh blood and ideas to cultures and industries. There’s also a whole lot of other westerners who are super into Asia in general but especially Japan and would move there in a heartbeat for the right incentives.

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      7 months ago

      attractive to immigration to stave off population shortfalls

      Apparently the way forms and such work in Korea, it can be literally impossible for foreigners to live because the government simply cannot process forms submitted by foreigners. Their hostility towards the outside requires a generational shift. We’re going to have to see the country get a little further along the collapse route or for older people to start dying.

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        Yeah that’s most of what I was speaking to when I posted this, but Japan can also be very similar in that regard from what I’ve read and heard.

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          Yeah: onsen don’t let in foreigners, landlords won’t rent to foreigners, and corporations perform background checks when hiring to make really sure that you’re not part Korean.

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      It takes more money to raise a child than care for a senior. When the senior dies, that frees up resources which means you need less people. The people who are left have more resources and their labor is more valuable.

      The black plague created the Renaissance.

      WW2, which killed almost exclusively the healthiest hardest working men resulted in a generation of unprecedented growth and wealth for everyone else.

      Population decline is a good thing. When land and resources are so plentiful that someone with a high school diploma can support a family of 4, population will go back up until overpopulation causes a decline again.

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        Population decline can have benefits

        Just like, don’t make it seem like you want genocides and yeah you are right

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        Kind of hope covid would do the same but all it did was make everything worst with the housing crisis. Now I cant have a house anytime soon and by the time I’ll be able to afford I’ll be too old to have kids. No way I can afford both house and kids right now. Back in 2017 house mortgage was half it is today.

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      But what about Korean purity? Korea is number one.

      What if the foreigner names are really long? They won’t be able to fit on our shitty id cards, credit cards or driving licences causing an absolute nightmare in our nazi-esque ID verification system. And we can’t possibly change it because we don’t like change. Also Korea is number one.

      What about drugs? Foreigners bringing drugs to sell to children.

      What about profit? How can we make a profit if we can under pay & abuse our immigrant workforce?