The crazy half is in control right now and there’s not much we can realistically do.
That’s defeatist. There is a lot that can be done. You could pressure your representatives to gum up congress so much with filibusters, and unnecessary votes to slow down what Trump can actually get done. You could join the democratic party with others and start demanding that they change from within. You could support local or internet grassroots campaigns who resist Trump. If the only thing you’re going to do over the next four years is wait to vote Democrat again then there’s not much you’re realistically Willing to do.
They were saying that, if you at least voted, you’ve lifted a finger.
I feel you though. Being a lone voice in a county that went like 93% Trump, it definitely feels like my vote doesn’t matter. Hell, our mayor at the time was caught drunk driving with his niece in the car after a fundraiser, told the cop ‘do you know who i am’ and threatened his job, and he STILL won by a lot.
I’ve been calling my congressman’s office to angrily rant at his staff every other day for the past few weeks. I plan to do the same tomorrow and Ukraine will be the topic of my rant.
Not sure if it will do any good since he’s a shithead Republican and probably doesn’t care about my opinion.
Unity between lefties and liberals (german communists and socialists) as a common front against the nazi threat would have worked too, but they were busy bickering. That would have helped a lot in the 1930s, but nobody was expecting what was about to happen. We know today what happens when you let fascists in the henhouse, but everyone is doing the same all over again.
I’m fairly left as well, and whenever I brought up strategic voting I was swatted down with “genocide” like the other person. I was event told by multiple “lefty” users that they hoped Trump won just so it would hurt the democratic party and “teach them a lesson”. No matter that we’d be pouring gas on the fire and bringing shit home, they still had to TeAcH tHeM a LeSsOn. Ugh.
The only people who hate leftists more than rightoids are other leftists, and its for shit like that. Moral purity over pragmatism is no different than fanaticism in my eyes. As much as we may hate electoralism, its the only way to work within the system and not let fascists take over. But here we are.
This is the lefty-ist space I’m in anywhere I am on the internet.
I interacted with plenty here who claimed they would not be voting for Kamala due to Israel despite knowing all the horrible shit Trump was going to do.
yea, I was clumsy comparing the german communist and socialist party to those groups in the present-day US, especially given how vague the words left and liberal have become…but the lesson stands. Unity.
Their constitution has protections on their rights for just such a situation, so they should be quite aware of their rights and what they’re capable of as a people.
You criticized people for “not lifting a finger” and get mad when someone asks which finger you personally lifted? You are only allowed to criticize people for living their life if you are not a hypocrite. It sounds like of the items you listed I’d describe 60% as barely lifting a finger (phone canvas, minimal value; “vocal” online, zero value) and 40% as definitely lifting a finger (volunteering at unspecified org) which makes you not a hypocrite by my personal math.
I personally have no intention at all of answering your question because I didn’t make any statements as generally attacking as your own to start with, and feel no need to justify asking you to show your stripes.
I am not sure where guns came into play. However, I don’t think you should be owning guns: you don’t seem 100% stable given the disproportionate response, and I would worry that disproportionate response would come out while driving or other stressful activities.
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That’s defeatist. There is a lot that can be done. You could pressure your representatives to gum up congress so much with filibusters, and unnecessary votes to slow down what Trump can actually get done. You could join the democratic party with others and start demanding that they change from within. You could support local or internet grassroots campaigns who resist Trump. If the only thing you’re going to do over the next four years is wait to vote Democrat again then there’s not much you’re realistically Willing to do.
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My rep doesn’t give a shit lol, he’s cheering it on
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did you vote? because a lot of people didn’t even do that.
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They were saying that, if you at least voted, you’ve lifted a finger.
I feel you though. Being a lone voice in a county that went like 93% Trump, it definitely feels like my vote doesn’t matter. Hell, our mayor at the time was caught drunk driving with his niece in the car after a fundraiser, told the cop ‘do you know who i am’ and threatened his job, and he STILL won by a lot.
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You can protest, and you have access to weapons thanks to 2A. Americans can do much more than people in other countries.
The richest liars want you to think that you can only vote and then present you with the choices they have vetted to maintain the oligarchy.
Update: Angry rant delivered as promised.
I’ve been calling my congressman’s office to angrily rant at his staff every other day for the past few weeks. I plan to do the same tomorrow and Ukraine will be the topic of my rant.
Not sure if it will do any good since he’s a shithead Republican and probably doesn’t care about my opinion.
What should an individual American do?
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Unity
between lefties and liberals(german communists and socialists) as a common front against the nazi threat would have worked too, but they were busy bickering. That would have helped a lot in the 1930s, but nobody was expecting what was about to happen. We know today what happens when you let fascists in the henhouse, but everyone is doing the same all over again.Lefties supported Kamala. I dunno where you are getting that they didn’t.
I’m fairly left as well, and whenever I brought up strategic voting I was swatted down with “genocide” like the other person. I was event told by multiple “lefty” users that they hoped Trump won just so it would hurt the democratic party and “teach them a lesson”. No matter that we’d be pouring gas on the fire and bringing shit home, they still had to TeAcH tHeM a LeSsOn. Ugh.
The only people who hate leftists more than rightoids are other leftists, and its for shit like that. Moral purity over pragmatism is no different than fanaticism in my eyes. As much as we may hate electoralism, its the only way to work within the system and not let fascists take over. But here we are.
Reading your post I am reminded of the contempt I felt for the priority police.
That is not the impression I got on Lemmy in the lead up to the election.
All I heard was “genocide”. Trying to bring up anything else was pointless.
Lemmy isn’t exactly “the left”
I’m sure I wasn’t the only one not disagreeing with the genocide that made the calculated decision to vote straight ticket dem anyway.
This is the lefty-ist space I’m in anywhere I am on the internet.
I interacted with plenty here who claimed they would not be voting for Kamala due to Israel despite knowing all the horrible shit Trump was going to do.
Now we all get to live it.
Notice how 90% of them disappeared after the election?
yea, I was clumsy comparing the german communist and socialist party to those groups in the present-day US, especially given how vague the words left and liberal have become…but the lesson stands. Unity.
Agreed, we must all hang together…
Pretty sure you could answer my question without breaking any rules.
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It’s fine for you to suggest Americans should take up arms against their government.
That said, do you really think the individual American should do that?
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We need more Luigis, that’s for sure.
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I would like to know what rule #6 is. Asking for a friend.
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Their constitution has protections on their rights for just such a situation, so they should be quite aware of their rights and what they’re capable of as a people.
Are you suggesting individuals should take up arms against their government?
How exactly do you expect that to look? Did you see what happened Jan 6?
Yeah, they got their leader elected… and got pardoned and are walking free, smug as shit.
If another jan 6 happens the capitol police should join in.
And the DC metro.
I doubt they would, but they should.
What have you done to stop this?
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You criticized people for “not lifting a finger” and get mad when someone asks which finger you personally lifted? You are only allowed to criticize people for living their life if you are not a hypocrite. It sounds like of the items you listed I’d describe 60% as barely lifting a finger (phone canvas, minimal value; “vocal” online, zero value) and 40% as definitely lifting a finger (volunteering at unspecified org) which makes you not a hypocrite by my personal math.
I personally have no intention at all of answering your question because I didn’t make any statements as generally attacking as your own to start with, and feel no need to justify asking you to show your stripes.
I am not sure where guns came into play. However, I don’t think you should be owning guns: you don’t seem 100% stable given the disproportionate response, and I would worry that disproportionate response would come out while driving or other stressful activities.
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You really don’t seem ok.
Cut the manipulative bullshit, it’s fucked up seeing how you’re behaving in this exchange.