Read what she said. She’s not telling anyone to get violent. She’s saying they should be joining the peaceful resistance movement. But of course, the ones we’re peacefully resisting are going to spin it as encouraging violence - while they kidnap, assault and abuse innocent civilians.
"I wanna know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles. 18th Street, Florencia. Where’s the leadership at?.. Now that your hood is being invaded by the biggest gang there is, there ain’t a peep out of you… Don’t be trying to claim no block, no nothing if you’re not showing up right now trying to help out and organize.”
Exactly. Not encouraging violence, encouraging ACTIVISM. I fucking love it!
Gaslighting. The word you’re looking for, is ICE is gaslighting the situation.
Not to assault anybody; to join everybody.
Everyone villainizing her for this is, at best, tremendously misinformed.
This feels like this breaks the no schadenfreude rule…
I wouldn’t call it exactly “uplifting” that an elected official is asking gangs to attack cops.
That’s one way to demonstrate that you didn’t read the article.
I mean, you’re right, I didn’t.
I did just read it, and you’re right, the article is pretty “that thing she did was bad.”
But then an article that’s saying “politician did a bad thing,” still doesn’t feel like “upliftingnews” to me.
I don’t feel this is the best article on this topic for this community either, but ‘politician asks criminals to stand up for the vulnerable’ isn’t schadenfreude in my books
I think the reason it feels like schadenfreude is the context of the community.
Like, the only version of why someone would post this here that makes sense to me is, “haha, yeah, go gang members, eff those cops.” The person with that mentality would view this as “upliftingnews,” which would fit in the schadenfreude bucket to me.
Is that what OP thought? I can’t possibly know. But I don’t know why else they would have posted it here if they didn’t.
It’s good to question intent of any op. I’m personally was also really happy with the no schadenfreude rule, so no downvotes from me. This feels as the maximum level of political news for me, but because there is less of that here lately my tolerance has grown as well.
This would be schadenfreude to me if the point was to discredit the politician / the party in question. I can’t tell if that is the intent, but maybe if i had a different world view (and thought she did something bad), i could have.
Its bad for the vice mayor to be asking everyone, including gang members especially, who have large numbers and the organization, to help join activism organizations, since they are also being targeted?
Here’s the thing. Even if this isn’t bad (which I would argue having to resort to asking armed criminals to police your streets certainly isn’t good), that doesn’t make it “upliftingnews.”
It has the same vibe as a “Trump gets cancer” headline. Would a lot of people be super happy about that? Sure. But it’s not “upliftingnews.”
Stand up =/= attack.
That was the implication I got from what she said, but I suppose it’s possible she was telling the “cholos” to “defend their block from the biggest rival street gang” in a peaceful way. (Her words, not mine.)
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She isn’t. She is asking them to get involved in organizing to stop raids
