Emmanuel Macron has hit back at Donald Trump’s latest threats to impose tariffs on any country opposing his Greenland takeover, warning that “no amount of intimidation” will persuade European nations to change their course on Greenland.

He was echoed by the Swedish prime minister, Ulf Kristersson, who warned the EU would not be “blackmailed” by the US president, who on Saturday announced 10% tariffs on eight European countries from 1 February, with a further 25% tariff from 1 June.

In a joint statement, EU leaders said “tariffs would undermine transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward spiral”.

It is highly likely that the European parliament will halt ratification of last summer’s trade deal with the US after Manfred Weber, the head of the European People’s party, the largest voting bloc in the institute, said they would have to pause the legal rubber stamping process.

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  • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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    I think the orange turd bluffed himself into a corner.

    First he threatened to take Greenland by force if necessary. Europe didn’t back down and responded by sending troops to Greenland to prepare for possible conflict.

    The pedo realised this bluff didn’t work. So now he’s threatening with tariffs again.

    Military conflict would have had much worse consequences for both sides than the tariffs. So why would anyone back down for 10% tariffs?

    And if anyone learned anything about tariffs in the FSA (Fascist States of America) from 2025 is that they hurt American people just as much, if not more.

    Americans don’t want Greenland and they don’t want higher prices.

    Let’s see how smart the orange turd is.

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    Why doesn’t Europe do psyops on Americans like Russia? Christ, as we’ve seen America is very easily manipulated.

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        This isn’t something to celebrate, and will only accelerate Europe’s slide into fascism.

        Europe is already complicit with many of America’s worst criminal wars and genocides, and giving the governments more “intelligence” power will be used to secure their interests, not yours. More surveillance will never make you more free and secure.

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      The right has so many they would try to stop you, minimize you. Publicize it and make a big fuss.

      You should though. But your own countries will fall under our leadership in the west, without a real popular reform you will fall as well to fake popular reform of a far right backed by the us, russia, billionaires.

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          I dunno. Until very recently Europe at large benefited quite a bit from America’s pro military attitude. I could see European psyops designed to stoke that particular flame.

    • MoffKalast@lemmy.world
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      The best kind of psyops is the kind nobody thinks is even happening. Trying to be subtle in today’s brash politics may not be the best plan though I guess, it takes too long.

    • Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip
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      We go straight at it. A thing i personally despise very much is this all secret behind the back stuff with misinformation and whatnot.

      Personally i think we would do our enemies a favor if we punch their teeth in since the brain gets more oxygen that way and they may come to their senses.

      Cringe keyboardwarrior i know but thats my opinion.

      Coming from a country where im not even sure we have a secret service.(maybe its just that good 🧐)

      • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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        If you’re not gonna do psyops, you have to do an even better counter-psyops. Otherwise you will be fucked in the ass without realising it, until you’re bleeding to death and it’s too late.

        Just look at how beautifully Russian psyops worked on splitting up the Americunts and pitting them against each other.

        Russian psyops have lesser effect in Europe because people in Europe are generally better educated and are also taught in schools about propaganda and fake news and how to recognise those.

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    It is interesting that the pedophile defender says only he can defend Greenland but he is a lame duck president and won’t be there in 3 years. Could easily be dead by then too.

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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      If you think the fascist will roll over and allow a peaceful transfer of power in 3 years then you have not been paying attention.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        Exactly, and it’s not just Trump, it’s the entire White house administration. J. D. Vance is just as bat shit crazy as Trump is, and Stephen Miller is even worse.

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      Far be it from me to defend a Trump in any way, but the American desire to control Greenland does pre-date his presidency by a good stretch and it will still be a fond wish of the Department of War after he is gone. Trump is in this one personally because he thinks it will be a jewel of his legacy to add territory to the country. And he is always up for confrontational harassment of Europe and brandishing his sword as CIC. But Greenland specifically was put on his agenda by others in security defense circles. There is a case for it, and that case isn’t old and tired, it’s getting stronger as ice melts.

      • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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        Dude, there is a case in American history for doing genocide of natives too. What is your “defense” of Trump here? Like, I don’t disagree with you that American Imperialism is not unique to Trump - but you seem to be saying this makes it justified? Maybe I’m reading your comment wrong though.

        • scarabic@lemmy.world
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          Retract your claws, please. I can describe what they are doing and thinking without endorsing it.

          Perhaps you would find this other comment that I posted to Reddit more complete.

          Answer: (Please note that I’m going to detail what Trump and others are thinking here but that doesn’t mean I agree with them. Some of this is basic facts but a lot is POV. In particular I recognize that the American notion of “homeland defense” is incredibly aggressive, requiring a huge region of total control around the country and far afield, where the US wants to constantly project power toward its perceived adversaries).

          1. United States military believes that Greenland is of great strategic importance, especially as the ice up north disappears to open up more shipping lanes. Greenland is near some key shipping lanes, some key undersea internet lines, and is also just a big area of land between the US and Russia that the US wants defended to its general standard in terms of air dominance, missile defense, and readiness to repel invasion.
          2. United States military does not believe that Denmark is sufficiently guarding or even monitoring this region, and has already successfully negotiated to have some US bases up there to plug this hole. But they want more: complete control. The US does not like to have any dependencies on anyone for its defense.
          3. Greenland is rich in rare earth metals and those are importent for the future because they’re needed for advanced tech. China currently has a near monopoly on the world’s reserves and the US considers that a strategic threat. You can’t power a modern military without chips. And even if the US is able to get its own chip foundries going to reduce dependence on Taiwan, they still need the minerals.
          4. There is a long history of the US both criticizing Denmark’s management of the place (or lack of defense spending there), and of the US trying to buy the territory. Trump sees an opportunity to grab something and he doesn’t give a fuck if Europe or American liberals get flustered by it. In his view: the US is vulnerable unless Greenland is managed right, and no one is doing that. The country even lacks the population to truly mine their minerals or manage the corruption that is always a risk when a small nation comes into a flood of commodity wealth.

          So basically the hawkish elements of the US think that Greenland is 1. A strategic vulnerability for the US and 2. Just sitting there not being managed properly or at all. And since Trump has no respect for anyone, he actually likes the idea of grabbing this land. He doesn’t think anyone will actually do anything about it except complain. It will burnish his legacy and in his mind, strengthen America. He doesn’t think that Allies strengthen the US, he thinks that our Allies depend on the US. So in his mind we should be able to do what we think we need to because the entire world is depending on us for stability and defense.

      • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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        There is a case for America to ally with Denmark and the EU, so that America can partner on resources to the benefit of all involved, and so America can support and maintain military presence for the mutual security of the North.

        It’s the height of American arrogance, and indifference to global suffering, to even consider that there is a case where the US unilaterally occupies Greenland.

        • scarabic@lemmy.world
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          I’m not endorsing that case. It simply exists - Trump’s actions are not random bizarro nonsense from out of the blue.

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    The best time to stand up to Trump was when he first started making threats to the EU. The second best time is now. It’s time to stand up and if Trump doesn’t TACO, we in the EU can start selling his treasuries and putting tarrifs on US cloud providers.

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    FACT: TACO

    Do whatever you want, France. Trump will chicken out. Nothing else is as for sure other than that.

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      TACO is for things that could hurt the stock market or the the profits of capital. It literally comes from Wall Street traders.

      TACO is not for Trump being reckless and cruel. He bombed Iran, he bombed fishing boats, he kidnapped a leader of a sovereign country, he has built concentration camps and is sending his SS troops door to door.

      You best hope enough wealthy capitalist convince him not to invade Greenland. Because that’s the only reason he won’t. Don’t expect fascist to not take easy “wins” of cruelty to show power when they can.

      Fascist only back down when their capitalist owners tell them to OR when there is a chance they could be resisted and seen as weak.

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      I don’t know, he they seem to be more willing to escalate on treaty allies than anyone else.

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      I don’t know… I find it quite intimidating that there’s a bunch of power in the hands of a psychopath with dementia and emotional self-regulation abilities worse than the average toddler.

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          Sure he’s easy enough to manipulate for certain people, but it’s still not the same as those people being directly in charge themselves. Especially because there’s multiple different groups all manipulating him at the same time. Not that I’d want the people behind the manipulation to be in charge either…

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    Well my guess is, EU and Trump will come to an agreement: EU will spend $$$$ to protect Greenland and US Companies will get resources on Greenland anyway.

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        He’s hardly ever beyond a payoff. His cronies all run the war machine, they make money from conflict or bribery, just not from inaction.

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    shouldn’t there be an easy fix to this madness? just give trump a bright shiny trophy and tell him he earned it all by himself, like a big boy

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    I honestly don’t see why the EU and UK don’t cut off the USA entirely in response. Cancel all flights, cancel all visas. Cut the internet connection, allow no cargo to dock or undock, block all financial transactions. How hard can it be, if they want to be a pariah fine, it’s no great loss.

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      The economic damage to Europe would be high if that were to happen. Also Europe wants to keep the US onside for defence cooperation.

      In an ideal world, if Europe were all-powerful, I’m sure Europe would want to cut ties with the US as soon as possible.

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    I think the only response to Trump’s threat is a demand that he explain himself in order to allow trade to resume.

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    I keep expecting to hear the twang from csi MIAMI and seeing him remove the glasses in the thumbnail YEAAHHHHHHHHHH