You won’t find codeberg unless you search for it or a repo that lives on it explicitly.
Search in Google, DDG, Kagi, or whatever search engine you like for some generic variant of “where to find source code/ foss tools/ etc”, and show me the combo that returns you Codeberg.
Unlike Github, which is
a well-known place to find code
Codeberg is not, and most people have not heard of it, and won’t find it organically.
Whether you like the SEO-driving search engine providers or not, they are still the way that most people find things on the internet, and they prioritize Github results. When you’re not searching for “it”, but just searching them by describing things like it, (of which there are many, mostly on Github), it serves your interest to ‘O’ for the ‘SEs’ by putting it somewhere that will get prioritized higher.
If the goal is digital sovereignty for europe
Sovereignty is exercised and evidenced by a state’s ability to enforce the laws they have created. Microsoft operates within Europe. As long as Europe can enforce their laws upon Microsoft (as they can and do now), that relationship is still an exercise of European sovereignty.
Back to my first comment in the thread, “sovereignty != isolation”. Cutting yourself off from external groups does not make you “more sovereign” or something. If Europe cannot enforce their laws upon foreign business entities operating in their jurisdictions, and thus choose to prioritize Europe-headquartered businesses, that would be evidence of far weaker sovereign control of their jurisdiction.
Now, if it’s just a matter of prioritizing supporting European businesses, (call it, say, “Europe First”, or maybe “Make Europe Gr…” oh wait) that’s fine for them to do, and supporting any smaller business or organization over a large one is almost always preferable, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be about the perception of sovereignty or about nationalism, it should be about fighting back against corporate power by not rewarding these de facto monopolies and political meddlers and manipulators with your business.
But once again, that’s not within the scope (or ability) of a simple Office-alike application.
On top: Codeberg is like sourceforge: Relativeky unknown.
So some of the less technically inclined may know GitHub but would interpret Codeberg as a rip off unless IONOS literally links to it on their website (which they probably wont and instead just provide the download link or literally host the git infra on their own)
Is the code mirrored on GitHub?
If yes, you are right. It’s a skill issue of web searching
If no, you are wrong. It’s sort of like searching for a reddit community for lemmy by searching “AskLemmy lemmy.world”.
(The goal is to highlight that AskReddit was essentially forked to AskLemmy and made it’s own thing that is only on Lemmy)
Yeah but what they said is meaningless. Searching for <tool> source code is how you would search for tool’s source code. Not “where to find source code”
I can’t find any mention of that in this comment. And asking to read the whole wall of text in minute detail is bit much to ask…
Anyway: I have said it that I agree on being mirrored. But hosting it only on Codeberg does take away a bit from being easy to discover.
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You won’t find codeberg unless you search for it or a repo that lives on it explicitly.
Search in Google, DDG, Kagi, or whatever search engine you like for some generic variant of “where to find source code/ foss tools/ etc”, and show me the combo that returns you Codeberg.
Unlike Github, which is
Codeberg is not, and most people have not heard of it, and won’t find it organically.
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Skill issue indeed. Reading comprehension, specifically.
Let me spell it out:
“This year will be the year of
the Linux desktopCodeberg!”deleted by creator
Whether you like the SEO-driving search engine providers or not, they are still the way that most people find things on the internet, and they prioritize Github results. When you’re not searching for “it”, but just searching them by describing things like it, (of which there are many, mostly on Github), it serves your interest to ‘O’ for the ‘SEs’ by putting it somewhere that will get prioritized higher.
Sovereignty is exercised and evidenced by a state’s ability to enforce the laws they have created. Microsoft operates within Europe. As long as Europe can enforce their laws upon Microsoft (as they can and do now), that relationship is still an exercise of European sovereignty.
Back to my first comment in the thread, “sovereignty != isolation”. Cutting yourself off from external groups does not make you “more sovereign” or something. If Europe cannot enforce their laws upon foreign business entities operating in their jurisdictions, and thus choose to prioritize Europe-headquartered businesses, that would be evidence of far weaker sovereign control of their jurisdiction.
Now, if it’s just a matter of prioritizing supporting European businesses, (call it, say, “Europe First”, or maybe “Make Europe Gr…” oh wait) that’s fine for them to do, and supporting any smaller business or organization over a large one is almost always preferable, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be about the perception of sovereignty or about nationalism, it should be about fighting back against corporate power by not rewarding these de facto monopolies and political meddlers and manipulators with your business.
But once again, that’s not within the scope (or ability) of a simple Office-alike application.
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On top: Codeberg is like sourceforge: Relativeky unknown.
So some of the less technically inclined may know GitHub but would interpret Codeberg as a rip off unless IONOS literally links to it on their website (which they probably wont and instead just provide the download link or literally host the git infra on their own)
You’re not showing that they were wrong. You’re showing what they already said.
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Is the code mirrored on GitHub?
If yes, you are right. It’s a skill issue of web searching
If no, you are wrong. It’s sort of like searching for a reddit community for lemmy by searching “AskLemmy lemmy.world”.
(The goal is to highlight that AskReddit was essentially forked to AskLemmy and made it’s own thing that is only on Lemmy)
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I can’t find any mention of that in this comment.
And asking to read the whole wall of text in minute detail is bit much to ask…
Anyway: I have said it that I agree on being mirrored. But hosting it only on Codeberg does take away a bit from being easy to discover.