• Korne127@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they’re just doing shit all the time

    Hopefully the Green party can save UK

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      3 days ago

      The Greens are anti nuclear nimbys, they would plunge the UK into even further trouble especially with their lala land economics. Their immigration policy is also troubling as in the world we currently live in near open borders would collapse the welfare system the UK currently has & also furthers brain drain from poorer countries.

      (I am not against immigration in principle but their stated policy on the matter is absolutely nuts, Marx wrote about how we should invest in the global south and help them up to better living standards, not decemate their domestic talent pool.)

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        3 days ago

        Tounchosukd check out https://greensfornuclear.energy/

        They propose changing green party policy on energy to be more practical than idealist.

        When the green party is a minor party, being idealistic is more important. It helps to guide the policy of bigger parties to prevent losing votes to them. When they are bigger or wish to be involved in government, practical reasonable policy is more important.

        Regarding immigration, open borders can be the final ideal and that can be in a phased way. There is no problem with higher immigration if there are the resources to deal with it. In fact its a benefit for the host country and the immigrant, usually. Most economic migrants come seeking work not handouts. Most economic migrants work the jobs that locals don’t want to work. It does have a downward effect on wages, though.

        Like everything, gradual change to ideal policy is usually the best way forwards.

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          3 days ago

          Thats nice but until their MPs stop trying to block vital infrastructure & continue to complain about nuclear projects ill never vote for them. Their current policy and actions are something that mean I will never vote for them unless its explicitly changed, which a campaign group doesnt satisfy.

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            3 days ago

            That’s fair but when tories are awful for generations, Labor are centre right at this point and lib Dems are useless and trust evaporates instantly, it limits your options.

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                That’s cloae enough to green and policies for the people, not the powerful for me. Only issue I have isbthatbforba party that wanted independence, thrybseemed to have no actual plan after the referendum. What would happen to pensions, government services, national insurance contributions etc. Now they won’t get a vote for years again and that’s after brecit, which was a reason to stay. There’s idealism and there’s competency!

      • kossa@feddit.org
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        2 days ago

        How’s Hinkley Point C coming along? Awesome nuclear technology, such cheap and clean energy, much wow.

        Like it or not, but not going nuclear is the economically sound decision these days.

        And

        I am not against immigration, but…

        Hear, hear! How much stereotype is allowed in one comment?