The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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    Hamas is explicitly a jihadist regime. Do you… not know that?

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      I do know that. I don’t think it matters the reason they’re fighting if it’s the same effect either way.

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        If someone occupied my country, killed my family and took my family land I can’t say I’d react any different.

        ???

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          You’re being tedious. You know what I meant and notably hamas is not the only dog in this fight buddy. The narrative is it’s hamas because they’re religious extremists and it tends to discount the fact that regardless of their intent or reasoning the effect is the save, armed defense of Gaza. Without hamas the place would have been annexed 30 years ago.

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            I’m not being tedious. You specifically said you’d join Hamas. That’s what Hamas is. If you want to say something differently, just say different words.

            Without Hamas there would literally be a Palestinian state, and it would be a secular state, and I know this because this is the reason Hamas exists.

            They seized power and canceled elections forever specifically because Palestinians were going to be their own secular state, and Israel would exist. They find that unacceptable. Just like the entire reason for the October attacks was Israel normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia.

            These things are not secrets or opinions man. This is history.

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              You are, meaning by context is a thing. I did not specifically say I’d join hamas, hyperbole is absurd when there’s an objective record just above your comment.

              Not at all, there’s good evidence that Israel was always writing against that namely the Israeli government paying hamas and letting them thrive so long as they took out targets beneficial to right wing Israelis.

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                paying hamas and letting them thrive so long as they took out targets beneficial to right wing Israelis

                By which you mean “people who want a two state solution and a secular Palestine.”

                And yes, you do mean that’s because that’s who they fucking targeted.

                You’re so against Israel that you’re back to rooting for a shitter Palestine.

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                  Yes because we all know you end a terrorist organization but providing them funds they can then use to buy weapons and fighters? Weird plan bud.

                  You clearly don’t know what I mean bud, and it kinda seems like you’re not paying attention.

                  I’m against both lol.