• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Sure, but you’re not seeing other poor stripped nations having their citizens kill LGBTQ+ persons and blame it on western powers. It’s such a cop out to use this excuse.

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      How you figure. Being LGBTQ+ is a death sentence in many many poor stripped nations. And it is “just” illegal in soooo many more. https://www.fairplanet.org/story/death-penalty-homosexualty-illegal/ I’m no fan of organized religion in general. And Islam can be used to justify a lot of horrendous things. But, the religion alone is not to blame here. And I didn’t blame it on western powers. I blamed it on oligarchs. Those exist in nearly every country on the planet.

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        3 days ago

        You may not be, but the other posters are, and I keep circling around on this one but India is a great example of western powers literally owning them, and they just got their freedom less than 100 years ago and they’re not exporting religious nutjobs. And they’re poor as fuck, and have way more people than the middle east does.

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          India the country is not poor as fuck. It’s a nuclear power. Even after the west stripped it for profit, it still has absurds amount of wealth and resources. The other big difference is that while the power and money is consolidated to a segment of the population, that segment is very large compared to most countries.
          And overall, you have the direction wrong. The middle east doesn’t export these people. The west accepts them as refugees. But because of the wealth of india, their refugees rarely get accepted. So the religous nutjobs still exist (I’ve worked with some), they just stay in country. They stone their own people for being gay, or refusing to marry their rapist and all that.

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            India the country is not poor as fuck. It’s a nuclear power. Even after the west stripped it for profit, it still has absurds amount of wealth and resources.

            So does pretty much every middle east country…and it’s consolidated at the top.

            The other big difference is that while the power and money is consolidated to a segment of the population, that segment is very large compared to most countries.

            Ratio wise, it’s probably less than you think. Remember India has 1.4 billion people.

            And overall, you have the direction wrong. The middle east doesn’t export these people. The west accepts them as refugees. But because of the wealth of india, their refugees rarely get accepted. So the religous nutjobs still exist (I’ve worked with some), they just stay in country. They stone their own people for being gay, or refusing to marry their rapist and all that.

            There are a good number of people from India all over the west though. I do agree that a lot of the EU takes in refugees at the expense of their own people though.