• Malyca@lemmy.zip
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    4 days ago

    The native Americans, and probably other slaughtered native people, knew thousands of years ago

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      Even to this day, all across north and south America, people are still benefitting from the work indigenous people put into the soil and water. Both continents were a garden because the whole of them had been hand-tended for at least a hundred and fifty thousand years.

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        had been hand-tended for at least a hundred and fifty thousand years.

        As this did require the presence of people, it’s more like 15000 years.

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          That 15,000 year figure has long been proven wrong, and other hominids were here even earlier than humans were.

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            Currently, that’s speculation. Furthermore, the early people were hunters and gatherers and didn’t cultivate the landscape beside e.g. fires for hunting.

            Some argue that evidence points towards human presence extending back 130,000 years near San Diego, California at the Cerutti Mastodon site,[61] though the vast majority of scholars across multiple academic fields outright rejects this.[62][63][64] Scholars such as David J. Meltzer have emphasized the fact that there are no verified archaeological sites in the Americas older than 16,000 years accepted by the academic community at large,[65] which questions claims of sites being 20,000, 25,000, or even 130,000 years old.[66][67][68]

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_the_Americas

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              “Didn’t cultivate the landscape”, what complete trash.

              The same system that claimed Columbus discovered America, then finally relented that “other Europeans had gotten there first”, is also finding it impossible to accept this. Meanwhile there is oral history that can be verifibly dated back to the caps melting at least partway. As well as loads of physical evidence that constantly gets “dismissed” because it “couldn’t have possibly been that way”.

              Indigenous people are little more than a novelty backdrop with which to hang colonial “superiority”. Well done proving that at least.