• nyctre@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    If you believe it’s “sober” to say that the war started in 2022 and not in 2014 when russia annexed Crimea, yeah, I guess you could agree with his perspective. I guess what’s generally believed only matters when it aligns with what you believe and doesn’t when it goes against it.

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      1 day ago

      We’re not talking about believing. We’re talking about what is. “When did the war start” is not as relevant as you make it out to be. It’s just besides the point.

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        1 day ago

        Of course it’s relevant. Because it’s russian propaganda. The war started in 2014. If he pretends it didn’t, it’s because he’s looking at it from putin’s frame. Like with israel and Palestine where israel tries to pretend everything started on October 7th.

        Well guess what? russia’s been a shit neighbor since freaking moscow was founded…Ask any of them. So if you blame nato for the fact that the neighbors ask for help with defense, then… Yeah… Hell, they’re shit to their own fucking population, let alone neighbors… It’s no surprise.