• frongt@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    What makes you think they were genuinely trying to win? They have no interest in changing the status quo. It’s been very good to them.

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      2 days ago

      What makes you think they were genuinely trying to win? They have no interest in changing the status quo. It’s been very good to them.

      And that’s why they were genuinely trying to win. Centrist Dems are all about the status quo. This isn’t the status quo.

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        1 day ago

        didn’t seem to be bothering them that much. the democrats have shown no onus to fight for the status quo. now progressives? watch them sweat to stop that from happening. the progressives already won in a land slide? watch as they keep spending money and time and effort into undermining him at every turn.

        trump removes person hood from immigrants? thats a stern letter. fuck the democraric party

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          1 day ago

          That’s the Democrats’ corpo faction

          The progressives and the democratic socialists are the one who are fighting tooth and nail to make things better for us

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            the DNC is the corporate faction. they are spending all their money to harass their own base. and until they are all replaced, it will continue to be their DNC.

            you don’t remove the corporate faction by voting blue no matter who.

            you remove them by voteing blue only when it’s a progressive

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          1 day ago

          Right, the party that controls none of the pieces of the Federal government is definitely the one responsible for what’s happening in the Federal government. 🙄

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            1 day ago

            that is correct yes. you seem to have a short memory. do you not remember the shut down? the stern letters, the state reps being told to return to give republicans quorum? just because they are not the driving party does not mean they are not complicit, and biden showed no interest in curbing the republicans during his time. currently the democrats are spending themselves to nothing in their fight against their own progressives, so that even if the progressives win they can ensure their doners that the progressives would have no budget. they would rather republicans win then progressives

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        1 day ago

        I get the impression that the people who pay them thought they themselves would be alright either way, which is why the establishment Democrats for all their talk about how crucial it was to defeat Trump, repeatedly made politically choices of the far-right kind (supporting the Genocide in Gaza, cozying up with the Cheney family) that antagonized many of their natural voters.

        Mind you, Trump is so spectacularly incompetent that even with all the very explicit things he’s doing to help the wealthiest (most notably in terms of taxes) he might very well still hurt their interests more than he helps, them by turning America’s greatest trade partners against anything American (most notably Canada and the EU).

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      2 days ago

      Yeah, the Democrats want to lose. Everyone who voted for Trump or abstained is helping them.

      I say we should foil their plan by getting them elected against their will. Last time America elected a Democrat, the stress of the job gave him cancer. Be proud of yourselves, Americans; you killed Joe Biden. And you can do it again to the next bastard!