• protist@retrofed.com
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      Trump has wedded himself to the oligarchs who are making money from data centers while an overwhelming majority of Americans hate those motherfuckers. Did you see what he did a couple days ago? What in the actual fuck. He’s been disconnected from reality for his entire life, but dude is drifting off into space right now

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      Nothing would make me happier than to see US diesel purchased from Russia go to the bottom of the ocean.

      And I’m a fucking environmentalist.

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        Right? My preference would be that Ukraine steals it for their use… but blowded up is second best

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        I mean, if it manages to remain in barrels then it’s possibly better for the environment than being burned lol

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      I cannot think of any head of state who has a worse track record in terms of statecraft, vision, inspiration, or even pure accomplishment. Even if you flatten your moral judgment and only look to how skillfully even the evilest men in history achieved their aims, he’s plainly a negative outlier. His only signal achievement is in uniting the sentiment of the entire planet against the US.

      • 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.works
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        He’s been a really good promotor of energy independence with renewable power and sales of electric cars have never been higher.

        But the rest, the dude has the mierdas touch. Everything he touches turned to shit.

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          Oooh I like that a lot. “trump applied his mierdas touch again today, announcing he will annex the Falklands”

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        He is not a negative outlier. He is another step in the downward trend both Democrats and Republicans have continued for years.

        Biden was much worse than Trump in destroying international law in Gaza. If Trump did that all hell would have broken loose.

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      Nero was libeled by the christians after the fact. You feed a few of them to lions and they never shut up about it. But that was the custom then.

      Rome had a lot of monsters as emporers, Nero didn’t even rank.

      IE caricalla, and that was before shit got really bad.

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    So call me confused… But isn’t Russia short of diesel itself? And isn’t this breaking a bunch of agreements between western countries?

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      They are having diesel shortages and super high prices since the refineries keep getting blown up while simultaneously a lot of the middle east ones are out of commission. So not necessarily a ton for America to vacuum up and feel substantial relief but it does give fat stacks of cash to boost refinery repair efforts by pumping up demand and prices for Russian diesel

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        Good thing the US has their own refineries. This is whitewashing diesel to fund both sides of the war.

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          The American refineries are maxed out in capacity right now, while they’re making money hand over fist it’s extraordinarily expensive and time consuming to build new ones so not many have wanted to fork over the billions of dollars to do so in case elevated fuel prices turn out to be a flash in the pan by the time construction is over.

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      Russia is a very big country with very limited transport infrastructure. There are diesel shortages in Russia, mostly in areas where Ukrainian missiles can reach, but for example the Northern and Siberian districts would be mostly unaffected.

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      I asked Claude to explain the diesel thing, and I was also surprised to hear that Russia had banned diesel exports and just lifted the ban for this, so this was actually a favor to Trump.

      Now why would he do that? Well you know how Trump is about other countries’ oil. And he was already telling Ukraine not to hit the factories before. Trump doesn’t seem to care or understand how much diesel exactly is coming from Russia. He just knows Zelenskyy’s blowing up “his” oil now.

      I wonder if they’re really that stupid. But why wouldn’t they be? If I’m wrong, it’s not because I underestimated them. I just must’ve missed something.

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    A complete and total throwing of Ukraine under the bus. I cannot believe the Russian interference in US politics is so nakedly obvious and still nothing being done.

    Maybe it’s moot as the chaos really starts in just a few weeks. But wow.

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      I’d be angrier about this deal if I didn’t suspect that Trump tweeted this without any planning and when his flunkies try to act on it they’ll just get stuck asking Grok 'how do I import russian diesel" and never actually figure out how to do this.

      I don’t know if this is a hot take, but I don’t think Trump’s administration knows how international business or oil shipping works. I legit don’t think they can figure out how to buy diesel from Russia.

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        Russia is currently importing gasoline, due to domestic shortages caused by the war.

        Even if the US could buy it’s way out, I don’t think Russia has enough to sell

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          People in the US have largely not been paying attention while Ukraine has destroyed a ton of Russian petroleum infrastructure.

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          That, and Europe just figured out how to deal with a large portion of Russia’s shadow fleet. This gives that fleet US protection.

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              Fly a helicopter over them (usually when they enter a country’s economic zone), drop some units onto the ship, check the registration, confirm that it’s fraudulent, seize the ship.

              A few have been taken this way, but Russia has started sending military escorts and I assume they’re taking different routes. I haven’t seen any news for a while about how/if they’re dealing with the shadow fleet now.

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      I honestly feel like the only reason to do this is so that when Ukraine inevitably and justifiably hits a Russian tanker that happens to be destined for the US is so that Trump can say “fuck Ukraine, they attacked us”. Over like a few hours of fuel supply demand. Ideas planted by Russians into the minds of US leaders under different pretenses - or hell maybe even explicitly. I can’t help but feel like they’re looking for an excuse to be on Russias side.

      The quantity, from who should be an adversary in an active war against who should be an ally, is far too low to be meaningful other than for ulterior motives.

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        I think the trump brain would consider this playing 3d chess while anyone casually observing is like, of course that is his move.

        Pretty sure you nailed it with your summation.

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        lying about being attacked is part of the US playbook already. see also: Gulf of Tonkin.

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      Ukraine already tried that and got their entire coastline blockaded. (Also Russia would probably use the Pacific route for transport to the US.)

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    It’s funding it. No money for Ukraine but they’ll fund Russia, who apparently needs America’s help to defeat Ukraine, not just needs to stay out of it. Ukraine might defeat two of the worlds superpowers at the same time. Slava Ukraine.

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    So when the US (who has committed war crimes) give Ukraine weapons, that is not considered “investing in war”?

    Why do people romanticize war? It’s disgusting. Call a spade a spade. War isn’t pretty. War isn’t nice. Just say what you mean.

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      Ukraine can’t opt to stop the war… They were invaded. Giving them weapons is a defense against conquest. Reducing Russian sanctions prolongs the war by refilling their coffers so they can keep invading.

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      Dude, fuck you. Kiev is attacked basically daily. Do you expect Ukrainians to just lay down and take it? Ukraine is doing their damndest to respond in the only language Russia might understand. The fact that they’re still independent is a testament to their solidarity, their fighting force, and their determination to not be a vassal to anyone.

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        You can fuck me all you want, doesn’t change the reality that US has committed war crimes. It doesn’t change the FACT that war IS NOT PRETTY. It’s not FAIR. It’s not AGREEABLE.

        You ever listened to the song by the Edwin Starr? I recommend a listen. Romanticizing something as evil as war is when humanity really dies.

        We’re allowing evil people like Trump and Putin to idle by when we should be doing what dumbasses tried to do during Jan 6. The fools in power will not listen until they are forced to. Waiting only prolongs this madness that everybody tries to justify because they want to be on the right side of history. 🙄🙄🙄