Are they really useful for anything but porn?

I’ve tried deepseek-v4.1-flash and qwen-3.8 and both refuse to answer about radio jamming, unauthorized access to local systems, etc. Citing that this is illegal anywhere and they can’t help me. 🙃🥴

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    36 minutes ago

    For cybersecurity, “red team” and penetration testing; frontier models sell the hacking capability as a service, and refuse it to the normal models.

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    They aren’t even useful for porn.

    TBH I just use raw completion syntax and start answers with a “Sure, “ or something similar, ban refusal tokens, things like that. Sometimes I apply a useful task vector, if it’s available for the model. That’s the beauty of local inference: you control the sampling, so you can get them to do whatever you want.


    Abliteratiin is definitely a pseudoscience among the localllama crowd.

    Some are better than others, but at the moment, I keep zero abliterated models on disk, and I wouldn’t touch one without explicit benchmarks. I have used useful uncensored models, but there are so many bad ones out there spamming up Huggingface.

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    Doesn’t sound like they were abliterated in the least? I’ve tested them and they’ve happily helped me plan bank robberies, cruise ship heists, perfect murders, etc. Not very imaginative though, they kept insisting my plan to blow up the moon was fiction.

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    I was using an obliterated model with reverse engineer everything so I could be explicit with my intent to bypass copy protection and it wouldn’t care but many other models do

    I own fable 3 on PC but my friends don’t and you can’t get a key anymore and my paranoid friends don’t want to use a random pirated copy so I want to give a trusted legit copy and a open source crack

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    I’ve been using an Abliterated DavidAU’s Qwen3.8-Flash model with great success.

    Helps me keep my d&d notes organised, killing goblins and looting kings would sometimes get refused by cloud models.

    I also find it does well with helping me understand video game emulation where regular models would refuse me.

    But yes, you can use it with silly tavern and build yourself a dollhouse with all your favourite characters.

    The trick with loading these models correctly is using a tool like UnbiasedStrata.

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    I tried an uncensored Qwen model but couldn’t think of anything spicy to ask it, that and damn was it slow.

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    Using the normal models for Dungeons & Dragons style roleplaying, they sometimes refuse things. It has been a while, but generating characters with a dark background story was impossible with ChatGPT back then, for example.

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      I’ve played around with normal qwen 3.8 recsntly with my homebrew setting which is thematically pretty dark and it never refused anything outright but always tried to move the story into brighter and happier one. In contrast gpt-oss was into doom and death and tried to kill every character I’ve met for some reason.

      Might be a fun idea to try with decensored models.