I’m ultimately pro western leadership, but everything they’ve accused Russia of in this thread so far could have just as easily been said for America…

I can add, podman was ignored in previous years at my day job because there were some reliability issues either with GPU access or networking I forget, however these issues have been resolved and we’re reimplementing it pretty much effortlessly

When Israelis couldn’t subjugate the city of Haifa, they completely destroyed it and built a new city with the same name on top.

Theyve been doing Hitler shit for decades, is it really the case that America’s longest, oldest war in the east is our most righteous?

I’m pretty one sided on this topic, and I’m sorry if my first comment was hyperbolic as well as one-sided. That said, Is what you’re saying:

If Israel starves Palestinians in a ghetto they can’t escape, that qualifies as Hitler shit

If so, then I have to ask if the process of Palestinians being forced into ghettos they can’t escape, in their own lands, qualifies as Hitler shit?

I truly think Israel has always been this cruel. The only thing that’s changed is it’s a lot harder to hide something from the Internet.

Also, not like 80 years of colonialism is that different from 100, but the colonies that eventually formed into the nation of Israel were called “British Palestine”. When Israel was formed in 1948, this was well after the UN had operated under the imperative that “[the recently discovered] Nukes are dangerous, but the new world order isn’t evil because we can use this power to preserve countries’ borders”

Also, I’m not saying anything nice about the Eastern block. I hold the opinion western intervention was okay in scenarios like Vietnam, because before capitalist imperialists and even communist imperialists, there were Japanese imperialists destabilizing that region

Well, it shouldn’t have been in your 2024 bingo card because it’s been a yearly ordeal for decades

Hot boomer take ya got yourself there. Ya know, causing friction over the Internet is a form of protesting too?

I will say it is crazy how fast the parties have rotated policies

My dad used to listen to rush Limbaugh when I was a kid because for some reason he liked hating it so much. When Obama was president, the narrative was always anti Russia, pro defense like feds/CIA (“hard on crime”)

Then trump becomes president, and the party slowly shifts to pro Russian, and the liberal lefts that used to hate the feds/CIA are now more on the same page with those agencies

I’m not here to argue semantics, the spirit of the law / the spirit of the court case is consistent with their claims of ethnic cleaning, which you already agreed with. Is debating the letter of the law over the spirit of law, when it comes ethnic cleansing, really where you want to sit on your high horse?

Cool, now read through every comment. This thread never mentioned Gaza, so get out of your own ass. You’re minimizing ethnic cleansing

I love how you still can’t counter my point that what Israel is doing in the west bank is ethnic cleansing. You’re argument is honestly hilarious, I don’t even want to report it so more people can read how stupid you are

Unlike the West Bank

Unlike a specific case that completely proves my point? Palestinians have homes in the west bank and Israel is still colonizing that land

All of Israel is stolen land. It’s not fair to equate violence when one group is occupied and one is the occupier.

Hamas shouldn’t have 9/11’d them, but Israel shouldn’t have stolen all the land from palestinians and cramp them into a ghetto 4 times denser than LA, tell the civilians to evacuate to the other end of the city, then bomb at least 10 times more civilian causalities who were trying to escape.

With the extreme amounts of lobbying by Israel, I wouldn’t be Surprised Israel has significant control over the west. But that’s besides the point, we’re still giving billions of dollars for colonialism and ethnic cleansing.

None of this should be a surprise, look at American military policy such as Real Politik. None of Israel’s creation in the Middle East instead of Rwanda was because the west was sympathetic to Jewish struggles. It was a pragmatic choice to create an ally near a center of command closer to the East. Joe Biden himself, decades ago, said if Israel didn’t already exist in the middle east, we would have to make one anyways

More stand off ish in the press. And only in recent years after almost a century of colonialism

Okay so it’s actually really easy for you to look up how many billions of dollars we have given to Israel, but if you really want to insist that they are financially and politically independent in their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, then sure, have it your way

Thanks to billions of dollars of subsidies, training, and resources provided by…?

Well, sheer number of civilian causalities isn’t genocide. Israel is stealing land and pushing away Palestinians from their homes. Even if Palestinians weren’t murdered and just forced to emigrate that would still wipe their culture

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I read the title with that connotation. Was actually looking forward to hearing a valid complaint of the steam deck but Surprise!

Unfortunately, none of the west’s support is really because we think it’s good to help Jewish people. At the end of WWII, virtually no middle eastern states were similar to our ideology, and most of the natural resources to power our war machines were located there. Additionally, it’s at the boundary of three other geopolitical centers of commands.

Israel is America’s ability to project power, that’s why we give them so much money

Probably going to get a slap on the wrist