This is the diplomatic way to say “takes one to know one” in response to the accusation of “shithole country.”

We are actively, aggressively dismantling as much vital government services as we can to pad the bottom lines of as many oligarchs as possible with the continued Trickle Down Reagan Economics promises that need just one more election cycle to come to fruition, despite all available data pointing to the contrary.

… but if the data is “woke” I guess it’s to be ignored.

Rick Scott voting against his constituency?

Shocker.

- A Floridian, speaking sarcastically

As previously mentioned, they simply bottle it up. It’s not hard to “I’ve never had any suicidal ideations” your way out of any mandatory screening as currently implemented. Some are better at rooting out deception like that, but apparently that’s not in the budget. I received an MMPI-style questionnaire and subsequent interview, but so did all three of those peers I mentioned who passed just the same as I did. Hell, one of my academy classmates told the psychologist he thought he was Batman. When pressed for why, he relented and said it was an outburst because he was distraught due to his goldfish dying. He obviously made it through with a Pass and I think is still on the force many years later? His social media is intentionally obscure so it’s hard to say.

Truth be told, reforming law enforcement in this and other ways is simply not politically motivating for most Americans; they’re generally either focused on other single issues, “The police are perfect and criticizing them is immoral,” or “The police are all bastards and need to be abolished.”

I’m not dumb enough to tell everyone I meet I was a cop so all of my discussions about the matter are generally relegated to the internet, but of the people I bump elbows with on the topic on Reddit, 90% of the time it turns into name-calling and other bad faith tactics. The other evidence I use is… -gestures broadly at the state of US politics-. Remember when people were marching in the streets to fix the police? Remember how it generally didn’t?

True. It’s a mess.

Pedantically that doesn’t take away from your point but asserting just for clarity because I see people bring it up a lot:

The infamous Killology lecture isn’t taught to the vast majority of law enforcement in the US as I understand it. We certainly didn’t receive it (or similar) at my academy.

I’ve heard it isn’t quite as bad as cherry-picked-and-taken-out-of-context-to-malign, but I’ve personally never watched it, much like I haven’t read Mein Kampf; “That seems like a soup sandwich of nasty, so I’m not going to waste my time.”

Some corners of Lemmy that I haven’t seen maybe, but over my decade+ of Reddit I’ve never seen anyone present that as an issue.

I acknowledge it’s a bit lame that only a specific part of North America calls themselves “American,” but I doubt inaccurate and exclusionary endonyms are a phenomenon unique to the US.

Very similar in law enforcement as well.

I personally worked alongside three people who committed suicide for years in our tiny district of maybe 50 patrol deputies over the span of about three years. Kirk Keithley was my zone partner for a long time, then it was Terry Strawn, and then finally Daniel Leyden.

Of course, they also murdered their S/Os and other family members as well, so I’m not exactly pouring one out for them, but it’s an undeniable trend more broadly - that spaces that theoretically require the utmost in mental health often paradoxically result in mental health crises because of the stigma and practicality of undermining your paycheck; when the problem is still solvable, it’s “not big enough of a deal to risk my job over it.”

I don’t think that’s part of why I can’t read anyone’s mind, but okay.

Huh, never considered that.

It’s hard to get into the minds of a sea of semi-anonymous voters to determine their motivations. I’m sure they all had their own reasons, and yours may be one of them.

A lot of people include “I don’t give a shit about anyone else” in their “I don’t give a shit [about myself]” suicidal thoughts.

- Ex-cop, dealt with lots of suicide-by-cop attempts and investigated a lot of suicides

Clock out time is clock out time, especially if you get in trouble for overtime.

- Me, fired over an overtime dispute

You’re probably being dogpiled for perceived Ameri-centrism.

The irony, in my mind, is that while you were kinda veering the discussion in a different direction, per your edit you explicitly did so because you have no knowledge of mental healthcare in Argentina which is very much not Ameri-centrism.

If I had to put words to most of the downvotes, they would probably say “fuck you, this is a discussion about Argentina’s mental healthcare, not mental healthcare more broadly,” which again in a bit of irony, detracts from the discussion of how to address mental health crises.

Incredibly cruel. What a monster.

I want to get off Mr. Reagan’s Wild Ride.

I want to get off Mr. Reagan’s Wild Ride.

I want to get off Mr. Reagan’s Wild Ride.

I want to get off Mr. Reagan’s Wild Ride.