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6 months agoHere’s an article explaining why the BBC doesn’t call Hamas terrorists.
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You can lay siege though. Bomb anything going out or in.
nor are concrete plans to phase it out mentioned.
Once again, the article you cited, with the bit you cut out included and in bold:
Israel has also historically been permitted to use a portion of its FMF aid to buy equipment from Israeli defense firms—a benefit not granted to other recipients of U.S. military aid—but this domestic procurement is to be phased out in the next few years.
And the article linked to in the article you cited:
According to a congressional report, the “phasing out [of] Off-Shore Procurement (OSP) is to decrease slowly until FY2024, and then phase out more dramatically over the MOU’s last five years, ending entirely in FY2028.” As a consequence, the report notes “some Israeli defense contractors are merging with U.S. companies or opening U.S. subsidiaries”—in other words, transferring their personnel and capacities from Israel to the U.S.
The only thing you’ve proved is your inability or unwillingness to read.
Given previous interactions, I suspect it’s the former.
You are factually wrong and I corrected you just accept it and move on.
I’m sure you believe that. Good for you.
Just so you know, defacto means in practice. Not in law.
Your second article is interesting:
Israel has also historically been permitted to use a portion of its FMF aid to buy equipment from Israeli defense firms—a benefit not granted to other recipients of U.S. military aid
I’ve posted the rest of the paragraph:
Israel has also historically been permitted to use a portion of its FMF aid to buy equipment from Israeli defense firms—a benefit not granted to other recipients of U.S. military aid—but this domestic procurement is to be phased out in the next few years. U.S. aid reportedly accounts for some 15 percent of Israel’s defense budget. Israel, like many other countries, also buys U.S. military products outside of the FMF program.
And the article you linked to goes on to say:
Other experts argue that U.S. aid actually weakens Israel’s own defense industrial base while serving primarily as a guaranteed revenue stream for U.S. defense contractors.
The article you linked to, then links to an article you really should have read before commenting.
As the price of its dependency, Israel is now being forced to downgrade its own defense industries. Whereas the previous MOU contained a special provision for Off-Shore Procurement (OSP) that allowed Israel to spend around 26% of the aid it received on domestic products, the new terms require that all aid received from Washington be spent inside the U.S. In 2018, Israel’s Defense Ministry projected that the new MOU would cost the country $1.3 billion annually in lost revenue and cause the loss of some 22,000 jobs. Moshe Gafni, a former chairman of the Knesset’s financial committee, warned of the deal’s “severe ramifications for the delicate fabric of the State of Israel, harming its security.” A separate assessment in 2020 by the Israeli think tank INSS, concluded that “anywhere between several thousand and 20,000 of the 80,000 jobs in the defense industries in Israel will be lost.” … The consequences for Israel’s economy and to the country’s security posture will get more severe in coming years as the full bill from the MOU comes due. According to a congressional report, the “phasing out [of] Off-Shore Procurement (OSP) is to decrease slowly until FY2024, and then phase out more dramatically over the MOU’s last five years, ending entirely in FY2028.” As a consequence, the report notes “some Israeli defense contractors are merging with U.S. companies or opening U.S. subsidiaries”—in other words, transferring their personnel and capacities from Israel to the U.S. So, in return for a so-called “aid package” that actually costs Israel a fortune, the Jewish state is now tethered to its benefactor’s Iran-centric foreign policy and prohibited from capitalizing on its own considerable capabilities, while granting the U.S. access to its best military and scientific minds at a heavily reduced rate of pennies on the dollar. In turn, the ostensible largesse of this arrangement transforms Israel into a scapegoat for every lunatic conspiracy theorist in America to indulge in Jew-baiting in the guise of pontificating about “U.S. foreign policy.” Indeed, in order to maintain their own power, the entire cosmos of American Jewish organizations, with few exceptions, is now dedicated almost exclusively to maintaining an arrangement that cripples Israel’s capacity for independent action, while locking American Jews into a permanent posture of appearing to suck the U.S. government dry in order to fund their own niche overseas project.
That’s an article you linked to indirectly. Not me.
Look, this isn’t the first time this happened Linkerbaan, but you really need to read the articles you’re posting. Because if you don’t or give the appearance of disingeniously cutting out the bits you think don’t support your argument, you undermine any argument you make.
Put simply, when you go around the fediverse going spouting unnuanced or underresearched rhetoric, in an attempt to virtue signal that you’re the fiercest critic of Israel, you are in fact undermining your argument and the cause of those who are critical of Israel’s far right government and the occupation.
That’s assuming you actually care about the Palestinians, and this isn’t simply about parrotting Russian propaganda in the run-up to the US election.
IRC the US military is why the world has standardised 20ft/40ft shipping container sizes.
Serious answer?
Not in any particular order:
- Military aid to Israel is a defacto rebate for all the stuff they buy and a subsidy for the US defense industry. A lot of US politicians are on the military industrial complex payroll or end up working for it. A lot of Americans work in related industries.
- Just like with Europe, pushing them to buy American weaponry, ensures their native defense industry can’t become a significant competitor. (Obviously this is an issue in Europe right now, given we’ve been caught with a pants down because we’re too reliant on the US defense industry) For example, wouldn’t want the Israeli defense industry to develop their own highly capable missiles, because they might end up selling them to parties the US doesn’t want to have advanced tech, eg. some Israeli companies were found to have illegally sold China cruise missiles a few years back. That kind of thing would explode if the Israelis were independent for defense.
- Strategically interesting to have an ally in the middle-east, especially one with an excellent (foreign) intelligence service. Giving Israel aid also ensures neighbours don’t do anything stupid. A powerful military is the best deterent. A powerful conventional military, also avoids Israel going nuclear.
- Not the worst regime the US supports/has supported. Enemy of my enemy Real politik.
- AIPAC
- Evangelicals
- Outdated views of what Israel is actually like and a language barrier that has allowed Americans (and American reporters) to ignore the stuff not said in English.
You forgot to mention ‘genocide Joe’ or go on about ‘’‘Zionists’‘’ controlling all western media Linkerbaan.
Not the level of debate we expect of you. Fingers tired from copy-pasting Kremlin propaganda?
Looks like you didn’t reach the end of my comment:
It is possible to be critical of Israel and not defend Iran. Just so you know, I know Russian propaganda probably told you otherwise.
But hey, if people being critical of Iran or their terrorist proxies disturbs you, perhaps you should join the ghost of Russell Bentley on lemmy.ml
Good news. Finally the Iranian government will be able to defend itself against teenaged schoolgirls who uncover too much of their hair.
assassinated Iranian officials.
Bit disingenious to call (senior) Members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ‘officials’ like they’re low level bureaucrats, not military personnel.
you’re ignoring the fact that Israel attacked first.
Why did they attack?
According to Al Jazeera, the IRGC initially claimed the october 7 attack on Israel was revenge for the killing of IRGC commander Qassem Soleimani, although they later retracted that statement.
In any case, the cold war between Israel and Iran didn’t start with Israel bombing an Iranian embassy. Honeslty don’t know who started it, but it wasn’t the first attack, not the first attack on an embassy either.
Iran retaliated, and did so after warning Israel of exactly what it was going to do
Iran claims they warned Israel. The US says they didn’t.
I mean, your user name suggests you’re queer and a communist. How utterly bizarre that you’re defending an Islamic theocracy.
It is possible to be critical of Israel and not defend Iran. Just so you know, I know Russian propaganda probably told you otherwise.
They launched a massive attack on Israel, Israel responded with a very small and limited strike. Iran have been funding terrorist proxy groups for decades. They also treat their own people and women horrifically.
Hate Israel all you want, but cheerleading for an Islamic theocracy is stupid.
Why would Ukraine condemn an attack on a country that is supplying Russia with drones used to kill Ukrainian men, women and children?
Uhuh.
Anyway, breaking news is that Iran has also launched cruise missiles, so now Israel’s going to retaliate with a significant strike against Iran. And in case you haven’t been paying attention, Israel are less than great on proportionality.
Never a dull day.
The Israeli far-right gained power in part due to Hamas, PLO and Hezbollah attacks.
It’s an endless spiral of violence, reprisal and even more violence.
didn’t Israel start this by bombing their embassy in Syria?
Israel bombed their embassy in Syria as a response to Iran helping Hezbollah and Hamas. At one point an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps spokesman said October 7th was a response to the death of Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani, although they later retracted that. The Israelis wanted Soleimani gone because of his role in supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and earlier attacks on Israel, including his involvement in the 2006 war in Lebanon. Etc. etc. etc. on and on back to before Iran became Iran.
The middle-east is an illustration of the idiom “An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind”.
It’s important to remember that there are no ‘good guys’ in this whole shit show.
Iran was probably involved in the October 7th attacks. Some media even reported the IRGC claimed it was a reprisal for the death of Soleimani, although Hamas (and later Iran) denied it.
Just because the Israeli government is filled with Jewish supremacists and fascists, doesn’t mean the Iranian’s are the good guys. For example, they tortured and executed up to 30,000 political prisoners in 1988, a similar death toll to Israel’s in Gaza.
Nothing much. This isn’t actually the government of Brussels, but just one municipality in the city, the centre bit.
Basically it’s a bit like if the government in Islington (London) decided to stop buying stuff from Israel, except Islington has a larger population than the City of Brussels.
Кремлеботы не дремлют. :)
The Kremlin once went on record to deny Putin fell down some stairs and shit himself.
Sugar’s expensive in Ryazan. The Kremlin said so in 1999 and they would never lie.
It was someone else’s fault that 145 people died in the Crocus City Hall attack.