I was hoping he shot it

If I had more disposible money I’d love an AK103. They are so buttery smooth compared to Zastavas

I’m not denying you saw it, but just the overarching blanket statement that 5.7 defeats armor is not true. I’m glad the price has drop on ammo for it.

That’s right. I always roll my eyes seeing LE or military grade stuff sold on the civilial market. Just a marketing gimmick.

I have heard that could, but the ATF would be all over it if it did it consistantly. Just how the 7.62 Tok can defeat some armor using the spicier PPSH rounds.

I highly doubt they are producing SS190 Duty or SS196 off the shelf for civilians. As someone who actually buys 5.7, all I see is hollow point and fmj, no AP stuff. Sure maybe a few boxes slipoed into the used market,but FN is like HK and hates their civilian market. It all marketing just like “military use only” buckshot you can buy.

Again, the myth around 5.7 is so much fuddlore. Put it up to a reputable brand like second chance or safariland with 3a and the civilian sporting ammo wont go through. The ATF already tested 5.7 and concluded non AP doesn’t penitrate,heck even some 357 is stopped by level 2/3a

It was designed as a personal defense round that doesn’t over penetrate or ricochet like 9mm does. It also is low recoil (my S&W 5.7 feels like a 22lr shooting it), higher round count (most are 20+ round count, thinner profile than double stacked 9mm and hollow points are cheaper than 9mm. It also flies faster than 9mm which is great for unarmored targets.

With NATO adopting it’s only a matter of time before the US swaps over to it. It’s a solid round that I think people don’t understand since it was designed as a defensive round to prevent issues 9mm has.

(also don’t believe the fudd lore “it’ll go through body armor” because the real AP rounds are unobtainium and not found off the shelves)

I really like this! Love the black furniture on it

I’m glad 5.7 is getting more popular

Most full-size and compact Picatinny railed firearms, including GLOCK-style, BERETTA 90-TWO, SMITH & WESSON 99, and SMITH & WESSON TSW

I mean $50 is a cheap price to try it

Tractor Supply has cheap AF lights you can get if you find a mount for it

All they do is just “hold” the smaller round in a larger chamber. You won’t get extra pressure, it would be less due to the round being smaller in that case. You also lose a bit of accuracy since those adapters are only so long compared to the full length barrel

Even though you visually see no pitting or cracks, I would not shoot it with smokeless rounds full stop. Unless you can find a smokeless proof mark, you have no idea if it will blow up on the first round or the 50th. Adapters will still have a chance of blowing the gun up. Stick with black powder rounds.

BP wouldn’t foul the internals as bad as you think, just the barrel/receiver area. I run several BP percussion/cartridge revolvers and the hammer and springs hardly foul up, but I do clean them. You also have to remember that they had break action double barrel shotguns from beginning of the BP days to today.

Depending on the model, some can shoot both at the same time, some only shoot one after the other, some have 1, other 2 triggers, depends on the shotgun.

I think I’ve seen the video you are referencing.

Don’t take the risk, shoot the proper ammo/type with the proper gun. Spending a few extra bucks on specialty ammo is cheaper than hand surgery.

I personally would NOT fire smokeless in that gun. Sure, some guys proved THEIR barrels didn’t explode, but not all laminated steel or damascus barrels are all the same. On top of that, age is a factor on older guns too. Is the barrel pitted or cracked? These barrels are not proofed at all for smokeless.

Honestly, just buy 12GA ammo off the shelf, the cheapest you can find. Cut the top off, dump the wad, shot, powder out. Then put black powder (777 or whatever substitute you want to use), wad, shot, wad, and then use tallow or bees wax and pour it over the top, not letting it drop off the sides.

I can’t find the video of Berry showing “cut shells” on Iraqveteran8888 channel atm, but there are other sources.

Sorry you feel that way. I’m not going to try to convince you otherwise, but we can say the exact same thing for a lot of hobbies (golf, soccer/football, other environmental damaging hobbies).

Sadly my Remmy had to sit this session out. I felt like spoiled because the Army and Pocket Police were shooting a foot over the target, which I did have an acceptable group. My Remmy and SAA are tack drivers as long as I hold over to the right.

We should invent a powder that is clear and makes our report harder to see.

I would love to have a percussion wheelgun handle true smokeless almost like the Savage 10ML

Not sure who downvoted you, but I know several dems and left wingers who also enjoy firearms. I can also point to reps and right wingers who have banned firearms that they claim they “support”.

Sorry to hear that. My state Ohio, treats them as firearms regarding posession and transporting. I do enjoy the priviledge of shipped to my house. (Shame on Cabelas for restricting shipping here because of a shooting)

Safes only keep snatch and grab guys honest. Unless you drop 10’s of thousands, with reenforced walls from steel that it’s mounted to, criminals can still break in with enough time.

What exactly are you wanting and what “location” are we working with (basement, apartment, 2nd floor, walled, ext)?

I’m willing to bet playing any wind instrument would have the same effect.