The crazy part is the “stripped down” was still relatively modest. She was in underwear and bra, but they covered a hell of a lot more than most people wear to the beach in a lot of the world.

He wants all of his books in one index.

Can you lock it so only you can upload?

It sounds like a useful way to share stuff with friends, but not if any random person can upload stuff.

They need to know to be capable of living their life.

It is literally impossible to make intelligent decisions about their future health without all the information available. Willful ignorance is not a valid position, and health care professionals aren’t permitted to allow you to make decisions without knowing everything you need to know for a reason.

And again, by definition, you cannot be qualified to make the choice until you know what the information you’re asking to be withheld is, because that information is required to make a rational decision.

Neither of those shows the tiniest hint of kindness.

Either makes you a monster.

That right does not exist, because it is literally impossible to have the information required to make it, and it inherently requires someone else to do inexcusable, unforgivable things. You don’t have the right to compel someone else to be a monster.

The act causes the hurt. The knowledge of the source of the hurt is the only way it can possibly be addressed.

It’s really not a choice, because enough of you knows to be massively harmed. And there are numerous potential physical consequences. But ignoring that, it’s not a choice you’re entitled to.

Literally any doctor, mental health professional, police officer, or other person in any other position of influence/authority who doesn’t give you the information for any reason is an unforgivable monster who belongs in a maximum security prison cell for a minimum of half a decade per offense, with every other person in there knowing that they’re there for covering up sex crimes.

Being informed is not a choice. Care is the choice.

Being informed is a prerequisite to decide care. There is no other possible way to make a rational decision.

So am I.

The person being fully informed is the baseline legal requirement all the time because it’s literally the only way they can possibly make decisions about their best path forward.

Not informing them isn’t just unethical. It’s fucking unadulterated evil with no theoretical justification.

No, it is not. That is not informed.

Information being shared with the patient is not something that takes their consent. It is the baseline bare minimum obligation of every provider in every circumstance.

A lawyer can’t allow a client to decline to hear a plea offer. A doctor can’t choose to allow a patient to make any decision without being fully informed of everything the doctor knows relevant to their case. The information is always mandatory, and it’s always malpractice not to provide it.

Consent is informed.

Withholding the fact that a person has been raped is exactly the same as a doctor withholding a cancer diagnosis. They do not have that option and cannot have that option. The patient must have the relevant information to be capable of managing their treatment.

Not telling someone they got raped because it’s a bummer is exactly like not telling them they have cancer because it’s a bummer.

The doctor does not have that option. They are required to make sure that you are fully informed of reality.

Informed consent is mandatory for any health care. “Not telling someone to protect them” is an attempted mental health action that cannot possibly be valid without informed consent, which is impossible.

Not telling the victim, for any reason, makes you complicit in the assault. It is not a valid approach to “health”. Denial does not work and is not capable of working. The victim has to know, and cannot possibly have the information required to “choose not to know”.

Anyone with knowledge that a person was raped without their knowledge who doesn’t take steps to make sure they were informed is a monster who deserves many years in prison.

That is not, and does not in any way resemble, informed consent. Informed consent is the only possible valid standard. You cannot possibly be capable of declining to know without knowing what you’re declining.

Not consciously knowing doesn’t mean their brain isn’t affected.

Not telling them is gaslighting whether they’re consciously aware or not.

I did. Your solution is not acceptable. It is not theoretically possible to give informed consent not to be told, because you unconditionally have to have the details to be capable of making the decision.

Am I advocating for forcing adults into therapy? Obviously barring court ordered therapy, no. But children are not capable of making that decision and it is not theoretically possible that an adult who doesn’t want to inform them is acting in their interest. Not getting a child rape victim therapy is child abuse.

Informed consent to not know is not even theoretically within the realm of possibility. There’s a reason informed consent is always the requirement for all treatment. It’s because no one else can possibly be justified in making the decision.

The patient must be informed on reality in order to be capable of choosing a path forward. They cannot possibly make decisions while being lied to.

The trauma happened. Gaslighting them into thinking it didn’t can’t make them better. Your brain still processes shit whether you’re consciously aware of it or not.

There is no possible healthy path forward that doesn’t involve knowing reality. “Not wanting to know” isn’t possible without knowing what you supposedly don’t want to know. Not telling them is not, under any circumstances, forgivable.

They have to know, and they have to have to get therapy. There’s no other path to recovery.

That’s genuinely entirely insane.

Not notifying them should be a serious crime with no defense or mitigating factors and an extremely long minimum sentence.

They have to know.

I don’t understand the argument against it.

It’s their body. They don’t just have a right to know. They need to know.