It’s less about being ready to commit violence, and more like willing to die or lose all my freedoms for my beliefs. Tried doing things the peaceful, in-the-system way, working charities for blind people, deaf children, as well as various environmental causes. Got pretty high up in all of them, high up enough to learn that every roadblock to getting people medical aid, more blind people-friendly infastructure, cochlear implants for children, or utilizing cutting edge alternatives to oil and plastic using fruit waste and algae, every time it’s the millionaire/billionaire investor class that can’t see any profit incentive to helping people. I show up to pitifully occupy sidewalks regularly, I even take off work and take the financial hit if there are any demonstrations in my area. In August during the pogroms in the UK, I helped protect a mosque and got bricks thrown at me, hurt like a mofo but i’d take a million more. Helped nice young college girls get medical after getting bricks hurled at the heads and faces by fascists, meanwhile the cops did nothing but stand with their backs faced to the brick throwers, watching us get pelted with bricks and fireworks. None of this makes me even close to as radicalized as the fact that humans produce 3x the calories to feed every person on the planet yet we still charge money for food, and while there’s all these problems that need resources there’s $36 TRILLION sitting in offshore tax havens (as of 2016 according to the IMF).

I’m not willing to do violence, i’m willing to do anything even risk my life to stop them. I’d rather be smiling in front of a firing squad than peacefully obeying a soldier at gunpoint as he marches me to the camps. Perhaps you’re just not that guy.

Not necessarily. Pretty sure when America is divided into civil war, you bet there will be Spetznaz training local insurgency to help facilitate weapons and instability in the region. You know, like what America did to Russia’s borders (the middle east). Some would argue that’s already happening, what with all the Russian money flowing in the West (people in finance call London ‘Londongrad’ because there’s so much Russian money) into things like the NRA and donations to red or blue politicians in elections. The Russians literally wrote down their playbook in ‘Foundations of Geopolitics’ and they’ve been following the recipe to a T with great success. No need for any massive invasions or unconventional weapons, just keep sending weapons and special forces training from Russia to Ya’ll Qaeda and BBQ Haram and America will be a hollow shell of it’s former self.

All they need is donkeys and wounded people to take on the West. Hell, in Iraq there were multi-million$ US tanks being blown to pieces by $30 IED’s. Both US and Russia were beat in Afghanistan against goats and tunnels. Not trying to say that Russia is doing fine (they’re not) but their technology or lack-thereof is less a sign of weakness and more of a flex. It’s almost as if Russia is saving the good stuff for somewhere else, like a geopolitical rival they’ve had for over 100 years, who are currently destabilized and divided done by the help of Russian disinformation tactics and their own assets in that rivals government, you know…

I wonder what Putin has on Trump. Pee tape or P-Tape?

Only to protect the interests of capital though. If you’re a popular black guy talking about economic distribution then you’re cooked, but increasing the wealth from the middle-class to the rich and killing the opposition is what the CIA is for.

Could you kill baby Hitler?

I’ve always wondered why so many people peacefully marched into the trains, trucks, and death camps, then I see the sheer amount of people like you who say that and remember why. Maybe it’s a personality thing, some of us who are faced with annihalation vs annihalation with a fight, we choose the latter. Most people will just take annihalation peacefully out of fear or laziness.

Americans wouldn’t let that happen.

Right, Americans?

So is invading the Hague if the US is held accountable for war crimes.

capitalism is that if everyone did it correctly, and worked together to maximize each other’s value, it wouldn’t even be that bad.

Capitalism isn’t, never was, and never could be about working together to maximize each other’s value. It has always, only was, and will only ever be about privatizing value, stamping a logo on other peoples work going “This is my work now.” All that “free, competitive market” bullcrap exists with or without capitalism, “better product is more popular” has nothing to do with capitalism except stifling better products for sake of capital aka profits, such as planned obsolescence, for-profit healthcare/prisons, buying cheap selling high, etc. You really think the people who invented the sail kept their IP private for the sake of profit? Or do they share that value with the world simply because everyone would benefit. What about metallurgy, leavened bread, beer? The polio vaccine? Some people worship the markets like a God that bears them miracles through human sacrifice, other atheists go one God further.

Nor have human beings and their endlessly diverse methods of trade and commerce in some rugged jungle somewhere need some white european/russian dude from the 1800s to tell them the complex philosophy of “sharing.”

C-level is beholden to shareholders, who would pay minimum wage if given the option.

They’d pay less than that. “Minimum wage” means “I’d pay you less, but I can’t because it’s illegal.” Hell, workers had to fight for weekends, they’d happily take that away and put kids back in factories if they could.

You mean American citizens?

Your turn, Americans. What are you, chicken? Bokbokbogoook!

Hard agree. If rioters burned down mansions instead of small businesses we’d see change sooner.

Yeah I know what you mean. Sucks too when they call themselves liberals but are conservatives in practice, they live in a very comfortable little box thanks to their paychecks, so they have no reason or need to think about the problems because “The markets are better than ever, it’s working well for me, I need to work with it to feed my family.” Historically, it’s always those people who turn coat and turn reporter for the fascists to save their own skin. Hence my statement that if you choose your comfort and paycheck over resisting against tyranny then you’re part of the problem (the royal you, not you in particular.)

It’s animalistic nature to blow off steam, it’s human nature to take a deep breath and respond instead of react. But yeah, I think the reason us leftist fight so much is because we’re the only ones willing to give eachother the conversation xD

Likewise. There is far too much ego on the left sometimes, too busy trying to dunk on eachother with who has the best theory or whatever. It’s time for us to address our common goals, remember how united everyone was with Luigi for a moment? It’s there, right under the surface, it’s only a matter of time and £$billions are being spent trying to suppress it. They’re losing, thrashing, and flailing. Idk if we should just mercy finish them off or just let nature take its course, my inner angel cries to help them but we all agree they’re not trying to help us.

The acting part is important. They’re all action and no theory, we’re all theory and no action. I mean they stormed the capitol for god’s sake. I want to start reading more on Fred Hampton, Angela Davis, Gil Scott Heron, back when the left still existed before being squashed by the police and FBI. Their torch needs to be carried now more than ever.

We have a lot in common TrickDacy.

It’s reeeeaaaaally wordy, I recommend audiobook or read along with audiobook. It’s not complicated language or anything it’s just reeeeaaaally dense, i’d take breaks between pages to digest what I’ve read.