and was pretty charming. much more natural and human than elon.

Elon is wish.com Zorg.

I’d say the zorg from amazon but apparently that’s a different asshole

and not just us… ukraine, taiwan, gaza, there’s a whole bunch of people he’s gonna sell out, and he’s taking bids apparently.

just curious from your POV, who’s betraying whom?

when are the sportos gonna realize their silly, pointless man games are another distraction from the horrible reality these same actors create?

oh fuck, the world’s overheating!

better get some footy clubs playing in Riyadh then!

fucking bellends

but why steal that land?

the entire planet to choose from, and that land?

Why do you think that is?

come on you can do it, put the parts together…

Yes, I’m sure the forced displacement of 700,000 people and the very reason they keep saying they are fighting has nothing to do with it, and its all because of religion.

what do you think lead to the displacement? how can you get this madness without religious dogma driving people to see each other as the enemy on both sides?

Osama wasn’t religiously motivated at all lol pfft

nothing is going to change as long as each side is letting their holy ideals lead them into war.

both sides.

but get rid of bibi tho, that’s a first for any progress.

oh you see a peace coming any time soon?

explain it to me then. how do you de-escalate? israel wants to kill as many as they can in palestine, gaza, hell now lebanon, 40k+ dead, how do you get people to stand down after that?

pffttt… wake up child.

lol I’ve been reading about Palestinian history for decades. you schmucks bought the british bullshit about the land being yours. and instead of cohabitating in peace, each side chose to murder people. over and over again. you build a settlement, they blow something up, you burn down their farms, they assassinate somebody. it never ends because both sides are certain god is with them.

it will never end as long as both sides keep listening to their invisible friends.

I’ve provided evidence for my thesis. all you have are insults and posturing.

have a great day.

Oh I’m sure it’s the most circuitous, vague explanation that works instead?

bwahahahaha…

without a divine god, without monotheism how can we ever explain ANYTHING bwahahaha…

You guys are so self deluded I can’t even.

yeah that explains everything. so why did religion hold so solidly through the ottoman empire then fall apart after it’s stability left?

why did the sunnis and shiites start murdering each other after saddam ran?

maybe without some very powerful base to threaten both sides into compliance, they can’t help but murder each other. because their religion commands it.

the UK sold palestine twice. once to the Palestinians and then to the zionists.

and those two couldn’t fucking make a paradise out of it, no, they had to start killing each other immediately.

Illegal settlements aren’t there because of Judaism they’re there because of imperialism.

facts disagree.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/longform/2024/3/19/how-israeli-settlers-are-expanding-illegal-outposts-amid-gaza-war

“The outpost builders are often driven by an ultra-hardline ideology that demands Jews populate all of Palestinian land and force Palestinians out.”

Two thirds are ideologically motivated - Haredim or Zionists. https://israelpolicyforum.org/west-bank-settlements-explained/

How do you go from secular motivation to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_tag_attack_policy

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hardliners-violently-expel-palestinians-to-expand-israeli-settlements-in-west-bank Eiyar insists the violence is caused by Palestinians refusing to accept what she sees as her biblical right to live on this disputed land, which they call Judea and Samaria, and that the only solution is for as many Israelis as possible to move here.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THAT MADNESS WITHOUT RELIGION?

BIBLICAL RIGHT?

So please, provide evidence it’s all secular. Religion is the root, it’s fucking rotten, it’s infected the entire region, and it’s only going to get worse.

I’ll take that as a compliment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam’s_razor

“The simplest explanation is usually the best one.”

all the tiny brained downvoters, looking at the simplicity of life and saying “no, that needs jeebus!”

if shoes caused people to hate and murder each other that argument would make sense.

religion is the lever, put to the work of violence by amoral people, an easy task when they each assert theirs is the only way.

pfft. shoes.

feel free to vote for Trump if you think that’s better. Or there’s always Jill Stein.

Meanwhile, in reality, you assholes are gonna keep the fight going until one side makes the other side glow in the dark, that’ll improve things IMMENSELY.

Glowingly pathetic.

If you think what’s happening in Gaza is purely religious in nature

I argue it couldn’t happen WITHOUT the influence of monotheistic madness.

Pray tell, without the religious fervor on all sides, how long would any of it last? for fucks sake, be realistic

edit: and your thesis, that Palestine is fighting a purely secular battle - is absolutely absurd. Explain the atrocities on oct 6 without theology, it doesn’t make you seem better, it’s damning.

ffs people, stop with the silly fucking excuses

oh yeah the guys with the colonial settlements aren’t religious at all huh?

lolwtf

yeah it couldn’t possibly be that international relations in the highly contentious middle east make the problems so tied to religious fundamentalism on both sides that the players are ideologically driven maniacs who will never accept any form of compromise because without the unwavering support of their hardcore adherents they won’t remain in power.

I’M SURE THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO FUCKING DO WITH IT.

You know if these assholes - both sides - would stop listening to their imaginary friends and look at the reality on the ground, we might have a chance.

As is, we’re fucked until one of these gaggles of idiots sets off a nuclear war.

but mmm yeah blame both sides, you’re just looking at both sides on the wrong side of the fucking planet.