They may be telling on themselves with the headline

Imagine being so rich that this is what your rock bottom looks like

The idea is to place an upper limit on corps for the definition of a full time work week. If you want to work more, go ahead, but your employer shouldn’t be able to compel you to work past that max number of hours in return for benefits. It’s tricky because there’s a legal component and a cultural component to it. Also some businesses will push back (especially service industry) because they will need to change their whole hiring and scheduling.

Maybe they’re trying to offload their entire supply to boomers before they croak? For real though, I don’t know anyone under 50 who drinks this, Folgers etc and actually likes it enough to buy a year’s worth.

I would support anyone making that choice. But there’s no way around the fact that some people are going to want to eat meat, and I think that’s fine. Good luck trying to change other people based around your own personal dogma - especially when it’s around what people eat, they don’t like it and they might think you’re an ass. Along with wanting to eat meat, most people don’t like to be told what to do. In fact they often do the opposite. So no. In the same vein, please don’t take the following as an attempt to persuade you or anyone to change your eating habits. It’s simply a window into my thoughts on the matter.

It’s the level of consumption, amount of waste and all the harmful externalities that I’m not ok with.

The fact is that meat farming, at a small enough scale in a closed loop system can improve the land instead of destroying it. It can also be net-zero or even provide net-negative emissions. That’s not to say there are no emissions. We’ll likely never see a cow that doesn’t burp or fart. Cows expel quite a lot, I’m certain you know, mostly methane. There are ways to reduce it somewhat. The goal is take the harmful stuff we don’t want and either harness it as an input for something else down the line, or offset it somewhere. This is difficult, it requires hella discipline and commitment, but we’ve learned quite a lot about how to do it. That’s not to say there are one-size-fits-all systems or methods. Beef cattle need water and a lot of it. They need space and a lot of it. Grass. They produce waste and a lot of it. If you can’t provide the proper inputs or reduce the outputs enough to reach net-zero (or my favorite cop-out: “net-zero… someday”) is not going to happen. If you choose to do it anyway and profit from that, then you’re a real piece of shit IMHO. Do something else.

If meat farming in a regenerative system is done correctly (which is going to look a bit different on every farm), meat animals are not mistreated and live the life they’re meant to live, they’re providing outputs for other parts of the system, customers get their (appropriate and healthy amount of) meat locally, the farmer gets a decent livelihood and can leave behind a legacy of land that’s been improved, and community is built through interacting with that food system.

Meat eaters don’t have any connection with the animals they consume and that’s a real tragedy right now. Mass-produced meat as a concept is completely abstracted away. You grab that Styrofoam tray of chicken or whatever and that’s the extent of it. Most brands greenwash the shit out of their meat, and the propaganda works.

If you’re a Person Who Cares™️, maybe you spend the extra $2 on the “organic” line or you only buy “cage-free” eggs that come with a cute little booklet an unpaid intern made 10 years ago. Maybe you allow yourself to imagine happy animals peacefully grazing away in some pastoral scene replete with red wooden barns and shit. People really think like that!

But it would do some good to actually restore some connection to the animals we depend on. Go to the farm, go on tours and events. Hang out with the animals. Volunteer to help out with the baby sheep/goats/cows when they come. And speak up if something can be improved or doesn’t seem ok. Form a bond with your food that actually starts at the beginning and not the end. Hunting is another (but very different) way to access that connection. As a bonus, hunters are helping with management and learning useful skills. It’s not for everyone obviously, and that’s ok. I’m not saying you should have to personally kill your meat or even watch that happen. It takes a certain type of person to safely carry that kind of burden. I’m not saying everyone who hasn’t done this today is somehow bad. It’s not the average person’s fault we have such a shitty, rickety, exploitative food system (at least in the US where I’m at).

But if the idea of “meeting your meat”, and taking part in its life while it’s actually alive makes you uncomfortable, queasy or you’d just rather remain ignorant, yeah, you might want to take a deep look and examine whether you should be eating it at all. You (the person I’m replying to) have simply made that choice ahead of time, which is totally cool. I don’t presently care about your reason for it, nor do I need to know, but you’re welcome to share. What you don’t have is the right to make that choice for others.

I’m under no delusion that we should replace all beef with grazing cattle at current levels of consumption. It should be what the land can support, ideally. If they’re part of a closed regenerative system, net-zero emissions and even net climate benefits can be possible. Cattle aren’t going away anytime soon, why not bring responsible stewardship mainstream?

Do you think the people who will end up owning all this arable land will be smart enough to avoid fucking it up? Mono cropping, climate change, pollution, pesticide runoff: these can turn your once arable land into useless acreage nobody wants right quick. I understand we have a lot of it, but look what happened in Brazil.

Go away, batin’!

Simply being selective with meat can go a long way as well. Cattle grazing on regenerative farms is in a completely different category from generic CAFO beef from the grocery store (at least if you’re in the US). The main issue is finding it locally.

And yes it’s more expensive, but also more nutritionally dense so you end up using less anyway. Plus it actually tastes like beef. We should be paying more for meat IMO, considering the resources going into its production.

They thought of that, too. There are a finite number of rivers responsible for bringing the vast majority of trash into the ocean

https://theoceancleanup.com/rivers/

And give up free 5g? Are you insane?

So that’s how babby is formed

At least then they couldn’t pass chat control 😎

Holy shit! It’s exactly 1ヿ:L7 in my time zone just now!

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It makes me think of a machine, not a person. I prefer to just use “staff”

That is almost the opposite of what I said.

As someone else said, they are getting denied. There are many many more disgusting examples of those American exceptionalist attitudes that make more sense to get your jimmies rustled about, just look in any direction.

I would guess that most of the people applying are representative of populations that do legitimately feel unsafe in the US right now (or at least less safe than, say, a year ago). It just doesn’t rise to the established standards in Canada, which, admittedly, exist for obvious reasons. Someday they might. I hope I’m wrong, but these couple hundred applicants are probably a bellwether and this conversation about people fleeing the US for greener pastures seems likely to continue.

And hey, it doesn’t cost them anything and I’m pretty sure there’s no penalty from Canada for claiming asylum and not getting it, beyond just not getting it and some human having to waste their time processing these. It’s better that the process is there than for it to not be.

Lastly, we shouldn’t get to decide whether people feel safe or not, it’s not your choice to make and we kind of just have to believe them unless they’re clearly just trolls doing it as some kind of weird stunt for Internet likes. I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing here, but I’ve seen a lot more of it about, it’s a feature of this cruel time we find ourselves in. It actually wouldn’t surprise me if there are a handful of people who applied just to troll or “pErSeCuTeD fOr BeInG ChRiStIaN” types in the mix also though.

Yes, the authorities have announced that the issues have been resolved, mission accomplished! (Please clap). Just don’t look behind the curtain back there - er…I mean, everything’s just fine! Nervous laughter