• eran_morad@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Christ. You can’t even be bothered to type “putin nuclear threats” into a search engine? Amazing how dumbasses think themselves superior.

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        8 months ago

        At this stage Medvedev is using nuclear threats to separate paragraphs in his speeches.

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          "We will increase petrochemical output by 5%.

          Nuke the West with an Atomnaya Bomba.

          As defined by OECD estimates, we plan on this economic growth to take place through the remainder of 2024.”

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          Medvedev is so funny, he just rants about nuking the west or some other crazy shit every time he has the chance

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        The threats are constant. The last one, less than two weeks ago.

        Never believe that trolls like that are unaware of how absurd their replies are. They know. They don’t care. They enjoy acting in bad faith, because they don’t actually want to persuade anyone with rational arguments. They want to intimidate, anger and disconcert people.

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          Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!

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            They literally were trolling tho, they were telling blatant lies that they couldn’t possibly think are real. Why are you going in so hard on removing anything and punishing anyone critical of Russia?

            Inb4 comment gets removed for being uncivil or something

            Oh hey just realized you’re not an actual mod, you just wish you were so you could ban those pesky liberals and nazis (people who think Ukraine shouldn’t be conquered and its people genocided) x3

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              you’re not an actual mod, you just wish you were so you could ban those pesky liberals and nazis (people who think Ukraine shouldn’t be conquered and its people genocided)

              i can dislike liberals and nazis and still not think genocide is good. most anarchists do.

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              8 months ago

              they were telling blatant lies

              which lie did they tell? address that. namecalling is toxic.

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            September 21, 2022 … In an address to Russians Putin announced he would call up 300,000 reservists to fight in Ukraine and backed a plan to annex parts of the country, hinting to the West he was prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend Russia. “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will use all available means to protect our people - this is not a bluff,” Putin said.

            https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-nato-chief-says-putins-ukraine-escalation-dangerous-reckless-2022-09-21/

            “I would like to remind those who make such statements about Russia that our country also possesses various means of destruction, and in some cases they are more modern than those of NATO countries. When the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we, of course, will use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. And those who try to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the weathervane can turn and point towards them.”

            https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-president-vladimir-putin-announces-partial-mobilisation-2022-09-21/

            And video:

            https://youtu.be/e8gZUQMqDAI?t=91

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              Removed, racism against Russians is still racism.

              Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.

              /s

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                No nuclear threat, unless attacked with nuclear weapons.

                No. Their official position is this:

                According to a Russian military doctrine stated in 2010, nuclear weapons could be used by Russia “in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies, and also in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened”. Most military analysts believe that, in this case, Russia would pursue an ‘escalate to de-escalate’ strategy, initiating limited nuclear exchange to bring adversaries to the negotiating table. Russia will also threaten nuclear conflict to discourage initial escalation of any major conventional conflict.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Nuclear_weapons_in_Russian_military_doctrine

                They annexed Eastern Ukraine, said it was part of Russia, then threatened “all means at our disposal” if anyone threatened Russia’s territorial integrity. Russia including Eastern Ukraine (and Crimea). Ie. if Ukraine made too many gains in Eastern Ukraine, they were threatening a nuclear strike.

                This isn’t a secret. As mentioned above, it’s been official doctrine for years now and they keep making these threats. Wikipedia has a summary of some of them:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_risk_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

                For example:

                Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, said that some Ukrainian military commanders were considering hitting missile launch sites inside Russia with Western-supplied long-range missiles. He did not name the commanders or disclose more details of the alleged plan and there was no immediate reaction from Ukraine to his threat. “What does this mean? It means only one thing – they risk running into the action of paragraph 19 of the fundamentals of Russia’s state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence,” Medvedev wrote on the Telegram messaging app. “This should be remembered,” Medvedev said. Paragraph nineteen of Russia’s 2020 nuclear doctrine sets out the conditions under which a Russian president would consider using a nuclear weapon: broadly as a response to an attack using nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction, or to the use of conventional weapons against Russia “when the very existence of the state is put under threat.” Medvedev made specific mention of point “g” of paragraph nineteen which deals with the nuclear response to a conventional weapons attack.

                https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-warns-nuclear-response-if-ukraine-hits-missile-launch-sites-2024-01-11/

                These are widely understood as nuclear threats in Russian media and by Russian audiences.

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            I think you just have a hard time comprending what a threat to do something is.

            Threats are not often direct statements if intent. Other things like moving nuclear weapons closer to the front is a form of threats. Or saying you will use nukes to defend your territory then shortly passing a law which claims the land you invaded as your territory.

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              Removed, Civility:

              Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!

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                Lol it what world is my comment above a personal attack or being uncivil.

                But them gaslighting everyone on the forums about Russian nuclear threats being fake news isn’t smh.

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                  I was debating putting a /s on there, I guess I should’ve oops

                  I 100% agree with you, I was making fun of that one account copying and pasting rules in reply to comments calling out that kind of mis/disinformation

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                Okay completely unsubstantial reply. English must not be your first language if you don’t consider those clear examples of a threat.

                русский бот

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                  Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.

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        Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!

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        Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!