cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50351339
The ‘yankification’ of British politics continues with Turning Point drawing attention to whatever the hell these people are supposed to be
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50351339
The ‘yankification’ of British politics continues with Turning Point drawing attention to whatever the hell these people are supposed to be
Can we ban turning point UK and all other American social media platforms for that matter.
Although what they did in soho does seem pretty based, but yanks out
Just looked into king’s army, they’re not blackshirts at all. Still wary about their affiliations with TPUSA, though
Seems like this article is biased and doesn’t even know what it’s talking about. Isn’t this basically a new take on the Salvation Army? Not my cup of tea, really, but this article is quite conspiratorial
Digging deeper, “the canary” is just taking stuff out of context.
There is NOTHING here promoting actual violence. Still a bit weird, but the canary is also promoting the fearmongering conspiracy theories which also caused someone to murder Charlie Kirk in the first place
Context: Flax likes the idea of blackshirts because he agrees with them, so he pretends all that deliberately violent imagery that literally demonizes their “opponents” is nothing to worry about and definitely not bog standard cryptofash shit.
oh woah, another day, another strawman. Why am I not surprised.
If you knew theology and terminology, you’d know that these are definitely not literal calls to violence. It’s like calling the hymn “Jerusalem the Golden” zionist.
This comes across as a holiness group. The same source of the Salvation Army. They even say on their website they have no interest in politics.
It seems like it’s more inspired by the Salvation Army than blackshirts.
Instead of wasting your time on some hyperactive holiness Christians, why not focus your energy on actual dangerous groups like Reform UK???
These are a dangerous group. They are a direct action homophobic and transphobic group that used intimidation tactics.
If you ran into them in real life you would understand. They were out in Soho which is famous for being an LGBT hub harassing people for “sexual deviancy” telling people they were going to hell and needed to be “saved”
And fighting this group does not mean we can’t fight other groups as well. Claiming we can’t is a classic right wing technique to try and detract from left wing resistance efforts in order to normalise people like this.
Edit: from his comments this guy is saying this shit because he’s a Christianband agrees with these people pushing their beliefs on people and harassing them.
That doesn’t sound like violent intimidation tactics. It might cause offence, yes, but a mixed group of unarmed men and women of different ages from various races chanting “Jesus Saves” in a street is hardly terrorism- it sounds more like a peaceful protest if anything (albeit, extremely unorthodox and counter productive. But again, this is within the character of charismatic movements). That doesn’t change even if you think they’re nutjobs/disagree with them. In fact, it’s quite a refreshing change from that march in London a number of weeks ago. Street preachers aren’t anything new in the UK. People probably wouldn’t have even noticed if Turning Point hadn’t used a video of them for content, and the Canary just wanted something to fearmonger over.
Soho is also famous for being a nightclub hub in general. I don’t know the area though so I cannot tell if they’re particularly targeting a gay bar or not.
However, seeing people call for violence or calling people terrorist over speculation is deeply disturbing.
So you are seriously telling me that you genuinely believe that an organised group calling themselves an army, showing up to a queer space as a mob to shout at them that they are going to hell, isn’t intimidation tactics?
Then you guys wonder why people hate Christians in general.
They are shouting “Jesus Saves” in a street. If you can show me that’s a queer space and they were also shouting at people telling them they were going to hell, please do.
They described the area as a “sex district.” I don’t think that homosexuality was all that they cared about.
Edit: Did a bit of digging.
So they’re chanting it (don’t even know if this can be called protesting) outside Ann Summers (a sex toy shop) in Old Compton Street, Soho, London. There are also bars nearby, an amount of them gay.
That’s all I can find so far. Still don’t see where the violent intimidation comes into play, even if it’s not my cup of tea.
Why talk about the thugs of the SA when the Nazi Party itself exists!!!
The SA was a paramilitary that had a party - the Nazi Party.
What party does the King’s Army - notably not a paramilitary - answer to?
Exactly.
Every morning, in schools across the world, children assemble in uniforms in an orderly fashion. Are you going to call them the SA as well?
Because that’s literally the only thing here that they have in comparison with the SA- Assembling in large groups in uniforms.
I realize that if you could create an intellectually honest argument you wouldn’t be a conservative but just lmao
The article posted is definitely not intellectually honest. It’s dangerous speculation.