President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren’t behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was “the data I was shown by my Defense Department.”

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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    A two-state-solution doesn’t work in part because extremist Muslim groups want the are to be purely Muslim. They would continue to attack Israel with terror tactics, Like they did from the start. What is your solution to that?

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      Swap Muslim with Jewish and Israel with Palestine and it’s the same problem… to be clear I think both are true but it’s kinda weird to single one out.

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        I single them out because the extremist Muslim groups on Palestinian side have openly admitted, repeatedly, that the goal ist to exterminate all Jews from the area and make it a pure Muslim country.

        If you have some sources that show the same was said from Israeli side about Palestine, please show me. Because what I see in this conflict is not as simple as people like to make it out to be. It’s not just evil colonizers trying to snag land from a victim country that wants a two-state-solution.

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          Yeah, the people of Palestine haven’t exactly been pushing for a two state solution and they back/vote in groups that want to exterminate the jews and enforce Sharia law wherever they can.

          Even if Israel wanted a two state solution they’re not going to get it. Not until Palestinians can come up with a functional government that isn’t made up of a group that has genocide as one of their stated political goals.

          And I mean actual genocide, the attempt to end a genetic lineage through violence, not the “genocide” of lemmy which essentially just means “cultural disruption/assimilation”, a widening of definition that allows them to pretend that it’s equal on both sides cause “they’re both committing genocide!”

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            It’s kind of funny to me listening to people who advocate for separate states. I mean, sure, do it. But don’t expect that to stop religious zealots from firing peace rockets at each other.

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              It won’t stop anything, a two state solution is a joke.

              The best case scenario now is for Palestinians to assimilate into other Muslim countries, it’s not ideal but it’s probably the way fewest people will die.

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            Sorry man, it’s not a “Lemmy” definition, that’s literally a type of genocide as defined by the UN.

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              Yes, the definition is vague: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

              genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

              • Killing members of the group;
              • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
              • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
              • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
              • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

              It hinges on “intent”, which needs to be inferred and interpreted. It includes terms like “in whole or in part”, and does not specify how many “members of the group” are the lower limit.

              However, the main point of R0cket_M00se still stands. There is a significant width in the spectrum of acts and intents which can be classified as genocide, with Hamas proudly on the upper end.

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              If the word you choose to describe forced cultural assimilation and mass slaughter for the intended purpose of annihilating an entire group of people based on their race are the same, your definition is useless.

              That’s like calling a playground fight between kids attempted murder, it makes the word worthless when you water it down to mean any violence at all.

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            Did you read those articles? The first two don’t address or hint at genocidal plans from Israel against the ethnic group “Palestinian” at all. The third article is about one (!) extremist politician who’s party didn’t even get into the parliament because they didn’t have enough votes. That actually goes against your notion that Israels goal is a genocide against Palestinians.

            This is not about disputing war crimes from Israel. It’s specifically about the question whether or not Israel wants an ethnical cleansing on Palestinians. And that this is the reason for the actions from their side.

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      There isn’t a solution and just to be clear proto Israelis take part in a civilian bombing campaign inside of mandatory Palestine because they also do not believe any other religion should exist.

      If you’re going to paint a picture don’t just throw shade at one when both deserve it.

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        How do you explain 20 % of Israel citizens being Palestinian, when Israel supposedly want Palestinians to not exist?