• AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
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    Nigel Farage be like:

    “Русске есть, my fellow comrades? I mean fellow British people!”

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      It doesn’t help that Labour seem determined to fuck things up. They have such a big majority that they could do so much to actually speak to the problems that regular people are experiencing that drives people to vote Reform.

      I live in a pretty shitty area that has a high proportion of Reform voters. Our MP is Labour, but on the track we’re on, we might have a Reform MP next time. Some of the Reform voters round here are racist arseholes, but most of them just feel so demoralised and unrepresented by the mainstream political parties that they are desperate for something — anything different.

      Some of them actively acknowledge that if Reform won enough seats that Farage became MP, that they would almost certainly fuck up the country significantly, but they don’t care anymore. They’re so desperate for change that the idea of burning the established order down feels appealing, because even if things will get very shit, very fast, that feels like the only path where there’s the possibility of hope for something good springing from the ashes.

      It’s simultaneously an irrational and entirely reasonable thing to crave. I can’t say I don’t sympathise.

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        What an insane position for them to take. It isn’t the US there was more than two parties. Hell they can see that because they’re talking about reform.

        Just tell them to vote Green. Or maybe Labour if they get their act together over the next few years. There’s always the possibility that Burnham will be in charge by that point.

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      Because there is no independent press in the UK. His masters will just amplify his message in one of the news outlets they own when it suits them.

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        The BBC gave him more air time on Question Time than any other politician by a huge, huge factor, and this was when he’d failed seven or so times to get elected as an MP.

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      He gets in the news constantly by issuing the most reactionary takes. He’s got tons of friends in the corporate sector, because he knows exactly which assholes to lick. And his opposition is physically incapable of turning left, so he can periodically outflank Starmer on real bread-and-butter issues by saying “I’ll expand the NHS! I’ll be tough on the Bad Businesses! I’ll fight for the working class [white people]!” while Labour just stutters and tuts and replies “That wouldn’t be sensible.”

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    This guy just supports any notion that can destabilise the EU and weaken the west. If he’s not a russian plant, he’s fucking excellent at hiding it.

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    N**el Farage is responsible for Brexit. UK would be better place if he withdrew from politics.

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      Farage is responsible? I heard it was a national referendum and the vast majority of votes were for Brexit. British are as bad as “I have no idea who voted Trump” Americans.

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        vast majority of votes

        Pfffttt… 51.8% and as if it wasnt a bunch of old assholes who saw a bus and didnt think it would impact their holiday to complain about not being able to retire to Spain immediately after.

        We don’t all have to talk like we know everything all the time.

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        the vast majority of votes were for Brexit

        It was 52% to 48 on low turnout. Real fucking landslide. And much of the funding came from Arron Banks, who went to Russia as a young man and came back with a fortune, the origin of which he has never convincingly explained.

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          And who’s fault is the low turnout?

          You guys always whinge and then vote stupid, then blame the politicians.

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        Where would the blame lie? The idiots who believed the lies or the cunt with the megaphone spreading them?

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        British are as bad as “I have no idea who voted Trump” Americans.

        Hard truths. New Labour only ever knows how to run to the right of the opposition and the old Conservatives can’t campaign their way out of a paper bag. So it’s Reform UK in the next election, strictly due to liberal incompetence.

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        Shows what you know.

        Seriously you might want to look it up because majority does not mean 51% of those who bother to turn out. Which was mostly no one because it was seen as a political performance piece and not a real idea.

        Then the idiot government screwed it up further by running headlong into a brick wall with zero plan. It was always going to be bad but they could have managed the split better.

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    He just has to adopt the shittiest views possible. So predictable. Must be his kink or something.

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      It’s a similar tactic to Trump that being permanently seen and heard is more important than any of the content.

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        Curious your comment was minimized under “more comments.”

        That is the way these far right operate, they are loud, bombastic, aggressive. They get attacked but because everyone knows how fucked our system is right now, they appear to be fighting the system.

        They are fighting to make it worse, the way to stop them would be to offer popular reform honestly. But alas that is more dreaded amongst our “left” parties than the right winning, or fascists.

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      It’s how he reaches out to the dumbest members of society and maintains some kind of support.

      Same tactic Trump uses.

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    Why was Farage at a World Leader conference? He doesn’t run any countries? Just another excuse to not be in his constituency I guess.

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      It’s not a world leader conference, it’s a meeting of assholes, grifters and criminals, and some of them are also world leaders

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          I wasn’t trying to rank them

          There must be 1000s of people that lead a state that aren’t there (given ~200 countries). What makes this guy’s presence so special? Or, perhaps, his presence is also out of place

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            California is 2/3 the size of the UK.

            Farage is an MP of a constituency of 75 thousand, and won the election for that position with 21225 votes. He’s not a minister, he’s not an appointed leader of anything, he’s not even the leader (or any official part) of the official opposition in the UK parliament. Hell he’s not even doing a passable job at being an MP given he’s missed like, 70+% of parliamentary meetings, and hasn’t held any significant surgeries in his constituency either. He’s the literal definition of paid for doing nothing politician, shuffling around Fasc-a-Lago hoping to earn some favours by having his nose so far up Trump’s ass he could diagnose the tangerine tyrant’s appendix…

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              California is 2/3 the size of the UK.

              In population, that’s true.

              In terms of GDP, California’s is a bit over $4 trillion, while the UK’s is $3.6 trillion. And in land area, California is 1.6 times larger than the UK.

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                Well, politicians are supposed to represent their electorate, which happens to be people, not land, or profits.

                Though given the recent years’ heavily publicised American approach to elections, I’m surprised you guys haven’t made the change to “land votes” or “money votes”, given the former seems to be what most of Americans believe to be true (especially when looking at election maps), plus the latter seems to be true anyway…

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                Yeah, my pedantic unnecessary retort was going to point out the GDP thing but then note that there’s some interesting commentary around saying “size” when five Canadian provinces are larger. But mostly that was me still being annoyed at the Davos soundbites

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                Drop in session/office hours type deal for constituents. Our mps can help citizens (usually by writing strongly worded letters) with small civil matters like planning/building regulations, issues with county council (local government) and so on. It’s also an opportunity for people to lobby their mp about national concerns too.

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              My grammar is admittedly pretty farm boy, so I thought I’d check. This might be saying the sentence was fine. But either way what your suggesting is nothing like how I hear people speak

              Some authorities prescribe that restrictive relative clauses (where the relative clause is part of the identification of the noun phrase) should only use that as the introductory pronoun, and non-restrictive relative clauses should only use which or who/whom as the introductory pronoun. In practice, either pronoun is commonly used to introduce a restrictive relative clause, including in edited prose. In contrast, it is not usual in edited written English to use that to introduce a non-restrictive relative clause, though there are occasional rare attestations.

              https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/that

              I saw at least one typo there and figured I’d leave it for you

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          That’s pretty funny. Both that I didn’t get his name right (I’ll put it down to him being irritating in a way I block things out); and that I got three comments effectively pointing out that California has a GDP higher than most countries without pointing out the name was wrong.