The Gush Etzion Regional Council has acknowledged ritualistic child abuse allegations within its communities following investigations and survivor testimonies, shaking Israel's religious-Zionist sector.
You know what? You’re absolutely correct. This is all public, non controversial information. Which is I will share this link so people here can actually read about this movement and see for themselves that you’re conspiracy theory nut that’s full of shit:
First of all, there’s literally zero mentions, connections, or even allegations that this weird movement had anything to do with Mossad, Israel, or Zionism. That’s literally you making stuff up.
Second of all, based on the article linked above, there’s also zero mentions of CIA involvement anywhere. The closest thing you’ll get to that is the cult founder’s wife and son used to work for the CIA. His son cut contact with him in 1985 when he started a home inspection business. There’s nothing in the article that mentions anything about this movement actually being run by the CIA. Again, the closest thing you’ll get to that is this:
The 1987 investigation received wider attention in 1993, when Henry T. “Skip” Clements, an officer in private-sector consulting and a resident of Stuart, Florida, obtained a copy of a report which stated that the Washington, D.C. police investigation into the Finders had been dropped as a “CIA internal matter.” Clements alleged that the Central Intelligence Agency had compelled the Customs Service to cease their 1987 investigation because the commune was used as a front to train agents. Clements’ allegations drew the interest of two U.S. representatives, Tom Lewis and Charlie Rose, leading to a Department of Justice investigation.[9][12] The CIA denied any involvement,[6] and CIA spokesman David Christian asserted that the 1993 accusations were a misunderstanding stemming from a CIA training contractor, Future Enterprises Inc. where one Finders member worked as a part-time accountant
Which doesn’t prove anything because the founder and his family lived in DC, and that’s where he formed his weird little cult, and as it so happens, government agencies like the CIA are big employers in that city. You’re making it sound as if this was a CIA run predecessor to Epstein island, which its not.
Finally, when you actually look at the alleged activities of this group, they were never even accused, let alone indicted on child trafficking. The only criminal activity this group has mentioned in the article is two members being arrested for misdemeanor child abuse, which in this case was not sexual abuse, but neglect. The Florida’s state police as well federal authorities investigated the situation but couldn’t find any evidence for criminal activity so the charge were charged and the two men were released.
Most of the allegations about them being CIA run operation or them being a satanic cult or being an international pedo ring or whatever all comes from the media, which as the sources in the article imply were done to capitalize on the Satanic Panic that was happening in the 80s.
Now, here’s the thing. If you’re critical of this group, that’s fine. If you’re critical of the law enforcement investigations done on this group, that’s also fine. If you’re skeptical of the CIA, go right ahead. However, what’s not fine is when you literally make up shit and try to pass it on as fact. Your claims have no evidence, no sources, no substance, nothing. What I posted here is public information, and it contradicts what you said. Meaning that you’re either really ignorant or you’re a conspiracy theory nut who’s spreading misinformation. Either way, it’s unacceptable and you need to do better.
All I read there is a “we investigated ourselves and saw no wrongdoing” kind of deal, with the extra steps of collusion between government organizations and judges in their pockets.
If you want to criticize tge investigations, that’s perfectly fine. I’m merely pointing out how the person I’m replying to is simply lying and making things up despite them insisting that their claims are public knowledge.
Ain’t that right? At least leftist conspiracies could be more creative and entertaining than something as silly as “child molesting pizza parties in a pizza joint basement.”
Well, you can’t be considered creative if all you do is accuse others of something you are actually doing. One thing is taking inspiration from reality, another is just to take reality as it is an alter what may point towards you.
You can pretend all you want, but all I see is a defender of pedophiles using doubt to sow discord. We know they are molesting children. We know POTUS is in on it. We know Israel used Mossad and the US used the CIA to supply children to wealthy people as rewards and blackmail.
Because you’re a pedophile. And you desperately want the pedophiles in charge to not ever be held accountable.
“Oh there’s totally not a coordinated global human trafficking ring funded by literally all of the world’s wealthiest people and protected by literally the most advanced and expensive militaries on the planet… it was just one guy that suspiciously won the lottery three times during his lifetime and was just pictured with every single rich and powerful person over 40 years.”
Ah yes, the grand googler has hit me with a rando substack article that’s filled with ads (placed by the authors btw) trying to fearmonger people into buying gold from them. Skimming through the article, which I’m 99% sure is generated by chatgpt, is literally just a rehash of the wiki article that I posted with no additional information provided.
There’s still NOTHING in the article that you yourself posted that supports ANY of your claims. You don’t have a moral high ground when you’ve proven yourself to be the liar that you’re being criticized as. I’m asking you to prove what you said, it’s really that simple. You haven’t been able to do it, you keep trying to assert that you’re right while wagging your finger as if you’re a moral authority on anything.
You can’t squirm your way out of this. There’s no 4d chess logic, there’s no connecting the magical dots, there’s no opening your third eye. You either provide sources that directly prove the claims that you made or your failure to do so validates my criticisms of you by default. If you’re a conspiracy whacko who’s lying and spreading misinformation, then prove me wrong and post your sources. Go claim by claim and spell it out for me, I’ll be waiting but I know you won’t come up with anything.
Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth. Why you so passionate about discrediting pedophiles rings? This isn’t Pizza gate nonsense.
Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth.
This is literally what you’re doing. The lack of self awareness is shameless. I didn’t ignore shit. The OP made a conspiracy theory statement that I asked to them to explain because they clearly posted conspiracy theory bullshit. They made two specific claims that I called out. First, they specifically said that Epstein was Mossad agent, which they failed to prove. Second, he made a string of lies about the Finders group/cult/movement/whatever. He said that they were Mossad/CIA operations to traffic kids to pedophiles and that this evidence was public and well known. I have very thoroughly demonstrated he’s a liar and all his claims are wrong.
I literally linked the public information in my comment and spelled out how the public information he’s talking about directly disproves him and his claims. His comeback was to give a literal chatgpt generated article on some substack that’s run by shmucks who are trying to fearmonger people into buying gold and silver from them. Even then, the AI article is literally a restatement of the wiki article it has zero new information that the wiki article didn’t have. How do they respond to me calling out their lies? They started calling me a fucking pedophile. That’s not ignorance, that’s just malicious misinformation.
It’s completely insane that you’re even willing to entertain low level conspiracy theory level bullshit as fact, not on the basis of accuracy, but on the basis hatred. Demanding clarity and accuracy is not an endorsement, it’s fucking accountability. Do you honestly think that calling out this moron for spreading misinformation means I’m endorsing child rapists? What kind of brain dead notion is that? Fuck Epstein, anybody who’s associated with him, and all other child rapists. You they won’t get a shred of sympathy from me. Are you really going to stoop so low that you’re going to endorse McCarthyist accusations from people who lack basic critical thinking skills? Like what are you even doing?
The thing is that my request thus far hasn’t changed, and it won’t change because I’m ultimately in the right. I asked for OP to provide evidence that actually prove their claims as he stated them. I don’t want a conspiracy theory justification where I have to connect magical dots that don’t exist or open my third eye and see a bigger picture that’s not there. Their second claim about the finders has already been debunked, but if they, you, or anybody else can provide real evidence that actually shows that Epstein worked for Mossad or any government agency in an official capacity to traffic kids like they claimed, then please show it to me and I will gladly concede. Until then, I have no reason to believe conspiracy theories on the basis of “dude, trust me.”
This is not conspiracy theory shit, as I said this isn’t fucking Pizza Gate. We have several people who are familiar with him all saying it sure looks like it.
Accusation is not proof but there is additional evidence.
Elements in Isreal had much deeper ties than they would like to admit. Surprise surprise, no one wants to claim this guy after he was exposed.
I doubt Isreal trained him, but there is strong intelligence that he was an tool of Mossad and the CIA as in he did work for them. He provided material support to advance the interested of Israel and the USA around the world. Perhaps you could say he was just self serving, but that is exactly the type of person these agencies use.
Perhaps what we are looking at is an individual that is both being used and using the USA, Russia, and Israel. I find it strange after all he did for Israel that they would say he actually worked against their wishes.
And it is not just other people’s words. Epstein bragged that he was a fixer, able to create and repair relations with different cultures and that he did work for Israel, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the USA.
Going back to his plea deal in 2008 when Alex Costa said that he was told to back off (which he did) Epstein’s prosecution because Epstein was involved in ongoing intelligence agency actions. He later denied he said this.
Pretending this is a “bro trust me” situation based upon the available information is a gross mischaraterization. I would even say that the conspiracy theory at this point is that Epstein didn’t have the connections that everyone says, including himself, he had.
You know what? You’re absolutely correct. This is all public, non controversial information. Which is I will share this link so people here can actually read about this movement and see for themselves that you’re conspiracy theory nut that’s full of shit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Finders_(movement)#1987_child_abuse_investigation
First of all, there’s literally zero mentions, connections, or even allegations that this weird movement had anything to do with Mossad, Israel, or Zionism. That’s literally you making stuff up.
Second of all, based on the article linked above, there’s also zero mentions of CIA involvement anywhere. The closest thing you’ll get to that is the cult founder’s wife and son used to work for the CIA. His son cut contact with him in 1985 when he started a home inspection business. There’s nothing in the article that mentions anything about this movement actually being run by the CIA. Again, the closest thing you’ll get to that is this:
Which doesn’t prove anything because the founder and his family lived in DC, and that’s where he formed his weird little cult, and as it so happens, government agencies like the CIA are big employers in that city. You’re making it sound as if this was a CIA run predecessor to Epstein island, which its not.
Finally, when you actually look at the alleged activities of this group, they were never even accused, let alone indicted on child trafficking. The only criminal activity this group has mentioned in the article is two members being arrested for misdemeanor child abuse, which in this case was not sexual abuse, but neglect. The Florida’s state police as well federal authorities investigated the situation but couldn’t find any evidence for criminal activity so the charge were charged and the two men were released.
Most of the allegations about them being CIA run operation or them being a satanic cult or being an international pedo ring or whatever all comes from the media, which as the sources in the article imply were done to capitalize on the Satanic Panic that was happening in the 80s.
Now, here’s the thing. If you’re critical of this group, that’s fine. If you’re critical of the law enforcement investigations done on this group, that’s also fine. If you’re skeptical of the CIA, go right ahead. However, what’s not fine is when you literally make up shit and try to pass it on as fact. Your claims have no evidence, no sources, no substance, nothing. What I posted here is public information, and it contradicts what you said. Meaning that you’re either really ignorant or you’re a conspiracy theory nut who’s spreading misinformation. Either way, it’s unacceptable and you need to do better.
All I read there is a “we investigated ourselves and saw no wrongdoing” kind of deal, with the extra steps of collusion between government organizations and judges in their pockets.
If you want to criticize tge investigations, that’s perfectly fine. I’m merely pointing out how the person I’m replying to is simply lying and making things up despite them insisting that their claims are public knowledge.
Honestly the left needs more conspiracy, the right has too long controlled that demographic.
Ain’t that right? At least leftist conspiracies could be more creative and entertaining than something as silly as “child molesting pizza parties in a pizza joint basement.”
I mean they were kind of right about the pizza thing I guess, it’s all over the files. It’s just not like an actual pizza place…
Well, you can’t be considered creative if all you do is accuse others of something you are actually doing. One thing is taking inspiration from reality, another is just to take reality as it is an alter what may point towards you.
I can’t agree with that. The world needs less conspiracy theories out there. We have way too many floating around.
Nice try. There are connections with the CIA even if they aren’t a smoking gun. They protected them and sent agents to train with them as well.
https://apnews.com/article/4c5cd8141e930159ea3e4f0492a41ade
Furthermore there is a long history of letting child molesters flee to Isreal and using child rape as blackmail. This includes Epstein.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244
You can pretend all you want, but all I see is a defender of pedophiles using doubt to sow discord. We know they are molesting children. We know POTUS is in on it. We know Israel used Mossad and the US used the CIA to supply children to wealthy people as rewards and blackmail.
That’s a lot of words for “I’m a pedophile and I want to fuck kids” but you do you I guess.
This is the level of intelligence, or rather, the lack thereof, that I expect from conspiracy theroy whackos
So it’s not a conspiracy theory, you’re just unable google things.
Because you’re a pedophile. And you desperately want the pedophiles in charge to not ever be held accountable.
“Oh there’s totally not a coordinated global human trafficking ring funded by literally all of the world’s wealthiest people and protected by literally the most advanced and expensive militaries on the planet… it was just one guy that suspiciously won the lottery three times during his lifetime and was just pictured with every single rich and powerful person over 40 years.”
You pedos make me sick.
Ah yes, the grand googler has hit me with a rando substack article that’s filled with ads (placed by the authors btw) trying to fearmonger people into buying gold from them. Skimming through the article, which I’m 99% sure is generated by chatgpt, is literally just a rehash of the wiki article that I posted with no additional information provided.
There’s still NOTHING in the article that you yourself posted that supports ANY of your claims. You don’t have a moral high ground when you’ve proven yourself to be the liar that you’re being criticized as. I’m asking you to prove what you said, it’s really that simple. You haven’t been able to do it, you keep trying to assert that you’re right while wagging your finger as if you’re a moral authority on anything.
You can’t squirm your way out of this. There’s no 4d chess logic, there’s no connecting the magical dots, there’s no opening your third eye. You either provide sources that directly prove the claims that you made or your failure to do so validates my criticisms of you by default. If you’re a conspiracy whacko who’s lying and spreading misinformation, then prove me wrong and post your sources. Go claim by claim and spell it out for me, I’ll be waiting but I know you won’t come up with anything.
Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth. Why you so passionate about discrediting pedophiles rings? This isn’t Pizza gate nonsense.
This is literally what you’re doing. The lack of self awareness is shameless. I didn’t ignore shit. The OP made a conspiracy theory statement that I asked to them to explain because they clearly posted conspiracy theory bullshit. They made two specific claims that I called out. First, they specifically said that Epstein was Mossad agent, which they failed to prove. Second, he made a string of lies about the Finders group/cult/movement/whatever. He said that they were Mossad/CIA operations to traffic kids to pedophiles and that this evidence was public and well known. I have very thoroughly demonstrated he’s a liar and all his claims are wrong.
I literally linked the public information in my comment and spelled out how the public information he’s talking about directly disproves him and his claims. His comeback was to give a literal chatgpt generated article on some substack that’s run by shmucks who are trying to fearmonger people into buying gold and silver from them. Even then, the AI article is literally a restatement of the wiki article it has zero new information that the wiki article didn’t have. How do they respond to me calling out their lies? They started calling me a fucking pedophile. That’s not ignorance, that’s just malicious misinformation.
It’s completely insane that you’re even willing to entertain low level conspiracy theory level bullshit as fact, not on the basis of accuracy, but on the basis hatred. Demanding clarity and accuracy is not an endorsement, it’s fucking accountability. Do you honestly think that calling out this moron for spreading misinformation means I’m endorsing child rapists? What kind of brain dead notion is that? Fuck Epstein, anybody who’s associated with him, and all other child rapists. You they won’t get a shred of sympathy from me. Are you really going to stoop so low that you’re going to endorse McCarthyist accusations from people who lack basic critical thinking skills? Like what are you even doing?
The thing is that my request thus far hasn’t changed, and it won’t change because I’m ultimately in the right. I asked for OP to provide evidence that actually prove their claims as he stated them. I don’t want a conspiracy theory justification where I have to connect magical dots that don’t exist or open my third eye and see a bigger picture that’s not there. Their second claim about the finders has already been debunked, but if they, you, or anybody else can provide real evidence that actually shows that Epstein worked for Mossad or any government agency in an official capacity to traffic kids like they claimed, then please show it to me and I will gladly concede. Until then, I have no reason to believe conspiracy theories on the basis of “dude, trust me.”
https://politicstoday.org/fbi-informant-claimed-epstein-was-israeli-spy-document-shows/
This is not conspiracy theory shit, as I said this isn’t fucking Pizza Gate. We have several people who are familiar with him all saying it sure looks like it.
Accusation is not proof but there is additional evidence.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/19/israel-installed-security-at-epsteins-manhattan-apartment-for-ex-pm-barak
Elements in Isreal had much deeper ties than they would like to admit. Surprise surprise, no one wants to claim this guy after he was exposed.
I doubt Isreal trained him, but there is strong intelligence that he was an tool of Mossad and the CIA as in he did work for them. He provided material support to advance the interested of Israel and the USA around the world. Perhaps you could say he was just self serving, but that is exactly the type of person these agencies use.
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/12/epstein_israel
Perhaps what we are looking at is an individual that is both being used and using the USA, Russia, and Israel. I find it strange after all he did for Israel that they would say he actually worked against their wishes.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/03/03/do-the-epstein-files-show-he-was-working-for-russia-or-another-intelligence-agency
And it is not just other people’s words. Epstein bragged that he was a fixer, able to create and repair relations with different cultures and that he did work for Israel, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the USA.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/
Going back to his plea deal in 2008 when Alex Costa said that he was told to back off (which he did) Epstein’s prosecution because Epstein was involved in ongoing intelligence agency actions. He later denied he said this.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-cia-ties/
We have good evidence that Epstein had compromised Ehud Barak. Israel and US intelligence would be aware of this.
https://www.trtworld.com/article/16616743
We also know he had strong connections to the CIA meeting with William Burns who went to director of the CIA.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-calendar-cia-director-goldman-sachs-noam-chomsky-c9f6a3ff
Pretending this is a “bro trust me” situation based upon the available information is a gross mischaraterization. I would even say that the conspiracy theory at this point is that Epstein didn’t have the connections that everyone says, including himself, he had.
That’s a lot of words for "i’m a pedo and I insist on defending pedophiles.’
You’re a pedophile
Enjoy the tag.
Yeah you’re absolutely a pedophile
And yours is the level of obfuscation in service of evil that I expect from zionists.