• DjangoFett@lemmy.zip
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    23 hours ago

    I am not my government, nor have i ever felt anything like “patriotism” at any point outside the Olympics, and that’s always as fleeting as whichever event I am watching.

    Much as Iranians aren’t their government, Chinese aren’t theirs, etc etc. Despots gonna despot.

    And if you think he actually got voted in this most recent time then I’ve got some bridges for sale in Brooklyn for a great price if you’re interested.

    ETA: Hard-line religious repressive governments and the CCCP genociding Uyghrs(sp) are what I’m referring to, nothing more.

    Also I’m dumb

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      23 hours ago

      That’s not how a democracy works. And if you argue against it, then it’s not a democracy any more

      In the end, I don’t think the rest of the world believes that this is all down to one person called Trump any more. This is down to the whole population and will require many generations of intentional cultural change to reverse.

      The USA is lost to most of its allies, not because of Trump alone but because things there can unpredictably change very dramatically every 4 years

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      18 hours ago

      Oh, he got voted in by enough people to make this rapist, childfucking, insurrectionist garbage human president the second time. There is no functioning mechanism to prevent such things or to reverse course when things are obviously fucked, and that is the fault of every american alive, regardless of patriotism. It’s not limited to a single generation either - this shit has been going down since at least Nixon, who got away scot free, and Reagan, who also didn’t suffer any consequences for the Contra affair.

      Every American alive - minus Gen Z / Alpha at the moment, but i am sure they will carry the torch on - is part of a system that has been running amok for more than half a century, and was neither willing to consistently vote for representants that respect the rule of law nor demand that the rules are changed in a way to prevent a fascist takeover.

      It’s just like with genocide - if you don’t speak out against it, you support it.

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      23 hours ago

      Much as Iranians aren’t their government, Chinese aren’t theirs, etc etc. Despots gonna despot.

      People on Lemmy need to actually internalize this fact^

      Thank you for thinking that way and saying it “out loud”.

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      23 hours ago

      ETA: Hard-line religious repressive governments and the CCCP genociding Uyghrs(sp) are what I’m referring to, nothing more.