Iran was now seeking the release of the entire $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets upfront
When you break your word twice a day, people will eventually figure out that your promises mean nothing.
I wonder if Trump will try his clearly working strategy of escalating things and yelling threats.
Maybe he’ll say some other country is offering to open the strait of hormuz for cheaper and Iran will get scared and cave.
Well diarrhea donny just raised the stakes again telling the Iranian Islamic Republic (in front of the rest of the world) that he is considering killing them all
Unlike the kiddy diddler, those people are hardened fanatics and find honour in death… shit is just going to be worse and worse
Thank you Muricans… your dumbassery will be painful (if not deadly) for the entire world and we only have you to thank for it
How is that not a war crime in itself?
Because there is no such thing as a war crime. I wish this myth would die already, all it does is placate people into accepting war.
That’s a completely brain dead take.
If the UN was actually dedicated to peace keeping they’d have arrested his ass for that shit.
The UN is just a forum that allows countries to air their grievances and talk out issues. It’s there to hopefully stop wars before they start. It’s not the world police
Which explains why they’re so shit at it.
Unlike the kiddy diddler, those people are hardened fanatics and find honour in death
Not crucial to your point but this sort of orientalism too often goes unchallenged. They’re not “hardened fanatics who find honor in death” (at least not any more than any other culture that values martyrdom, which is most of them); everything Iran has done so far can be explained through the cold hard math of geopolitics.
everything Iran has done so far can be explained through the cold hard math of geopolitics.
In the current war, yes absolutely. Iran has been the most logical and reasonable party to this war.
But you seem to be missing my point. In Iran, thousands have been killed and their stance does not seem to change. In the USA, gas has gone up and that has done more to sway Americans against trump than the knowledge their government is actively killing thousands around the world, including women and children, without a second thought.
If push comes to shove, I would bet my bottom dollar Iran gov will hold until the end. The USA on the other hand, won’t survive the AI bubble bursting.
This was ALL visible and demonstrated recently in the disaster that was the invasion of Iraq
Iran, or Persia, is many times older than the USA. They figure this too shall pass.
Agreed, what are US Marines but cold hard fanatics that find honor in death?
The US has cold soft fanatics that find honor in death (as long as some one else is doing all the fighting and dying)
That’s why the US military is mostly people without better prospects or any prospects. Most of the people I served with came from two core demographics: trapped without hope of escape in the ghetto or trapped without hope of escape from rural bumble fuck. The somewhat literal fear of going back to where you came from vs obliterating a bunch of “bad people” is an easy math problem.
While I understand your point… I think you will find a much larger number of people from Iran willing to become a suicide bomber compared to marines knowingly throwing themselves to death for the mission
I am not attempting to qualify either here are better or worse, just that religion fanatics are much more likely to go to extremes
I think you’re forgetting that US soldiers are also religious fanatics that grow up with the same level of abusive indoctrination.
I honestly can’t say for sure but I doubt it… anecdotally, the few Americans I know who did serve, did so as a way to get higher education paid for. None seem to have any particular love for what they were asked to do
This is of course anecdotal as I said, I do not know nearly enough people to say for sure nor have I read in-depth about this topic
I am not my government, nor have i ever felt anything like “patriotism” at any point outside the Olympics, and that’s always as fleeting as whichever event I am watching.
Much as Iranians aren’t their government, Chinese aren’t theirs, etc etc. Despots gonna despot.
And if you think he actually got voted in this most recent time then I’ve got some bridges for sale in Brooklyn for a great price if you’re interested.
ETA: Hard-line religious repressive governments and the CCCP genociding Uyghrs(sp) are what I’m referring to, nothing more.
Also I’m dumb
That’s not how a democracy works. And if you argue against it, then it’s not a democracy any more
In the end, I don’t think the rest of the world believes that this is all down to one person called Trump any more. This is down to the whole population and will require many generations of intentional cultural change to reverse.
The USA is lost to most of its allies, not because of Trump alone but because things there can unpredictably change very dramatically every 4 years
Much as Iranians aren’t their government, Chinese aren’t theirs, etc etc. Despots gonna despot.
People on Lemmy need to actually internalize this fact^
Thank you for thinking that way and saying it “out loud”.
ETA: Hard-line religious repressive governments and the CCCP genociding Uyghrs(sp) are what I’m referring to, nothing more.
I’m tired of winning boss.
Iran and the US had earlier agreed on a memorandum setting out a pathway towards a permanent settlement. The understanding included demands for the lifting of US oil sanctions, removal of the US naval blockade on Iranian ports, the unfreezing of Iranian assets abroad and an end to fighting on all fronts, including Lebanon. The agreement later unravelled, with both sides accusing each other of violating its terms.
Mohebi said Iran was now seeking the release of the entire $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets upfront, rather than receiving the funds in stages before and during negotiations.
“The issue of Yemen was not on the agenda of the previous agreement. We are now demanding that the lifting of the blockade on Yemen be included in the agreement,” he said.
The issue of Yemen was not on the agenda of the previous agreement. We are now demanding that the lifting of the blockade on Yemen be included in the agreement," he said.
There’s absolutely no way we can outblockade the Houthis…
They live and operate in cave networks that our best bombs can’t get to, and we wasted them already anyways…
They just sit in there making their own drones from raw materials, the only component they need is a gps unit. When their original leader was found, the only way to get him out was fill his tunnel with gas and set it on fire. Every last member is equally willing to die today or live 60 more years in a cave and then die the same way.
Mohebi rejected the suggestion that the Houthis were acting on instructions from Tehran. He said the Houthis “makes its own decisions and does not need to coordinate with us for anything in the world”.
That’s also bullshit, Iran funds and controls multiple groups like the Houthis.
So it’s going to keep being a war then until the military follows through on the threat?
The war is spiraling out of control. Europe, China, and Russia should get together and negotiate with Iran. Iran will trust them more.
Europe, China and Russia should tell the US to piss off until they’re house-trained
