• Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    I highly doubt they are producing SS190 Duty or SS196 off the shelf for civilians. As someone who actually buys 5.7, all I see is hollow point and fmj, no AP stuff. Sure maybe a few boxes slipoed into the used market,but FN is like HK and hates their civilian market. It all marketing just like “military use only” buckshot you can buy.

    Again, the myth around 5.7 is so much fuddlore. Put it up to a reputable brand like second chance or safariland with 3a and the civilian sporting ammo wont go through. The ATF already tested 5.7 and concluded non AP doesn’t penitrate,heck even some 357 is stopped by level 2/3a

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      21 days ago

      SS198LF. It is “LE only” ammo, which is more of a restriction that FN puts on it than anything, it has no legal weight. There are very specific legal definitions of “AP” ammo, and you are correct it does not meet that.

      I saw it on the shelves approximately 1 year ago at a major chain sporting goods store. $59/box. I have pics but I’m not going to dox myself.

      Anyway, if you look up SS198LF testing you will see that it sometimes (but not always) defeats Level IIIA soft armor out of a handgun.

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        21 days ago

        I’m not denying you saw it, but just the overarching blanket statement that 5.7 defeats armor is not true. I’m glad the price has drop on ammo for it.

        That’s right. I always roll my eyes seeing LE or military grade stuff sold on the civilial market. Just a marketing gimmick.

        I have heard that could, but the ATF would be all over it if it did it consistantly. Just how the 7.62 Tok can defeat some armor using the spicier PPSH rounds.