• Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    In countries with solidary health insurance expenses to cover unnecessary, tobacco related cancers are paid by the whole population.

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      That’s kind of shallow IMO. People drink and smoke (unhealthy much) usually because of something, like problems and such. We were also basically given cigarettes to start smoking and alcohol is everywhere, not always so simple. People don’t do it to spite taxpayers.

      But it’s good, a really good trend, banning cigarettes, NZ started it IIRC.

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        2 months ago

        If we go that way, IMO smokers should pay higher health insurance contributions.

        When I was playing full contact, injury rich sport, our club paid an additional insurance covering sport injuries for every game day - because general insurance can be stringent in such cases.

        So, risky behavior = higher cost of insurance.

        For context, I pay about 16% of my income towards health insurance. When I was between jobs, government paid most of it. I’m also a smoker, clearly realizing that this is a morbid self destructive habit.

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      2 months ago

      Because every throat and lung cancer is caused by tobacco, we should make everyone who gets them go bankrupt and die? I’m really confused dude. What cancers are necessary.

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          2 months ago

          Oh, so my initial assumption was correct, it’s whichever ones you personally feel like blaming the patient for getting. I take it the worst thing that’s ever happens to you is stubbing your toe and you’re a trust attorney?

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              2 months ago

              No, my nephew had cancer when he was six months. Anyone who is rooting for cancer deserves to die of it.

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                  2 months ago

                  You’re just saying that treating tobacco-related cancer is paid for by the whole population. That’s it folks! If anyone is inferring something from that, well, that’s clearly on them.

                  Edit: saw the deleted reply

                  • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    2 months ago

                    No, I’m saying that preventable tobacco related cancers are paid by all contributors to the solidary health insurance. I’m not sure where the other commenter’s nephew 6mo cancer fits in this.

                    Help me understand where I’m wrong.

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                    2 months ago

                    Yeah, like if somebody inferred that somebody smoking and getting cancer isn’t hurting just themselves, but indirectly also the entire population, especially people with chronic diseases. No way they would imply it’s in everyone’s interests to stop smoking across the entire population, they’re only saying things.

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                  2 months ago

                  my dude, i just took a look through your last page or so of comments. are you okay? are you going through a crisis of some sort? do you need some kind of help?

                  • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    2 months ago

                    I’m not keen on genocide denialist who can’t read, but other than that I post mostly jokes or straight facts, what’s so triggering for you?