• ATPA9@feddit.org
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      3 days ago

      The US has cold soft fanatics that find honor in death (as long as some one else is doing all the fighting and dying)

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        That’s why the US military is mostly people without better prospects or any prospects. Most of the people I served with came from two core demographics: trapped without hope of escape in the ghetto or trapped without hope of escape from rural bumble fuck. The somewhat literal fear of going back to where you came from vs obliterating a bunch of “bad people” is an easy math problem.

        • kerryh8er04@sh.itjust.works
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          I didn’t serve, but nearly every male in the high school class before mine, mine and the class after mine did. We were one of those bum fuck areas where you couldn’t get a job unless you traveled 3 hours a day.

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            It was funny to watch the city and the country kids figure out that shit was fucked no matter where you came from.

            When the factory and mill jobs left, nothing was there to replace that security.

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      While I understand your point… I think you will find a much larger number of people from Iran willing to become a suicide bomber compared to marines knowingly throwing themselves to death for the mission

      I am not attempting to qualify either here are better or worse, just that religion fanatics are much more likely to go to extremes

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        larger number

        you’re just flat wrong. american military propaganda and brainwashing is on par with the propaganda we are told happens in other militaries.

        every accusation is an admission

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        I think you’re forgetting that US soldiers are also religious fanatics that grow up with the same level of abusive indoctrination.

        • pet the cat, walk the dog@lemmy.world
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          No, you’re wrong. Remember, when someone like Russia invades countries, it’s because their people like to kill, rape and pillage. When the US invades countries, it’s because the poor soldiers need to get education and healthcare.

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          I world put the “some” qualifier before US soldiers.

          I’ve met my fair share that are who you describe, but I’ve also got some dear friends who worked in the military. One was because his dad is a two star general. The other was because it was the easiest way (for him) to get out of Utah. Both are religious, but they aren’t zealots.

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          I honestly can’t say for sure but I doubt it… anecdotally, the few Americans I know who did serve, did so as a way to get higher education paid for. None seem to have any particular love for what they were asked to do

          This is of course anecdotal as I said, I do not know nearly enough people to say for sure nor have I read in-depth about this topic