The Type 01 is the first model to arrive from Jaguar’s rebirth. The British carmaker was an early entrant to the modern EV market with the 2017 I-Pace, which was fun to drive even if it was too small inside and perhaps completely unreliable. An all-electric sedan was supposed to be next, but a year from the showroom, it was abruptly canceled, leaving the automaker with nothing to sell as old models like the F-Pace ceased production.
“The jag, it looks like a car you’d steal in Cyberpunk 2077,” said one Ars staffer approvingly. Credit: Jaguar
Ugh, I thought we were getting over this already.
The interior is fine, I can appreciate the clean lines and overall minimal ornamentation. White is probably a bad choice for a car that any real human is going to use.
But a touchscreen for the interior controls? Really? Is it 2015 again? Physical buttons are better. I would even go so far as to say they’re necessary for any controls that a driver might operate while driving - they should be findable by feel only, in the dark, while your eyes are on the road. A luxury vehicle design should certainly have physical controls, even if they’re tucked behind one of these panels to preserve the look of the interior:
It wouldn’t be ideal, but it would be much better than that thing that looks like a phone bolted onto the center spine, which is just ugly. It sticks out from the rest of the interior design like a flashing neon sign of cost-cutting. It looks like a POS terminal, like I’m about to pay for my coffee:
What a bad decision, or probably chain of bad decisions made through several committee meetings.
Whoever came up with the concept of touchscreens being somehow more sophisticated and luxurious than buttons deserves to be fired. Actually, while you’re at it, fire the guy that thought EVs needed all the useless tech gizmos cramped into them as standard.
That one is on Apple. Not because they pushed touchscreens as luxurious, but because Apple was generally seen as a luxury brand when people were first switching from phones with buttons to iPhones. The rest is just the general market reaction to a fad, in this case the ultra minimalist fad that also came from Apple.
Product people are being pushed out of leadership to make room for soulless MBAs. It is happening in every industry now that oligopoly guarantees returns and better products are no longer needed.
Edit: This is the LUXURY market. People buy luxury items not because they are COST EFFECTIVE but because they are AWESOME. Old school luxury car designers (ie product people) would sooner kill themselves than put their names on this bland shit.
I mean the reason they use the screens is more a cost thing.
LG and Samsung are pumping out millions of touch screens a year. The cost for a single screen is less than 100 bucks and it’s off the shelf. The alternative is spinning up or contacting production lines for those buttons or knobs each requiring design and QC and of course production.
The screens are just so so much cheaper.
They also don’t have to do any product development on the design team, they can outsource all of that to the tech team instead.
Physical things, including buttons and knobs, have to deal with moving parts breaking. Moving parts break in different ways from digital screens, and testing those parts for MTBF is more expensive than for digital screens. Individual buttons and knobs also have to be wired separately instead of a single wiring input to a CPU.
It all comes down to cost.
White is probably a bad choice for a car that any real human is going to use.
It looks more like beige.
I drove an Audi A4 with light grey / silver fabric interior for 15 years. It was 18 years when I sold it and still looked mostly like new. Only the drivers seat had a few slightly darker spots that I could likely have cleaned with a wet-dry vacuum cleaner.
I didn’t have kids in the car during that time, though. But I guess neither would whoever drives Jaguar.
If touchscreens were better then every plane would have them on every instrument.
They’re cheaper to implement, and in this context it certainly looks the part. That panel looks like a Garmin circa 2008:
Obviously they’re cheaper to implement. Wiring up all those buttons costs money and we’re not gonna waste money on good UX.
Plus making everything electric means more warranty repairs when the electric motors break.
But that’s enshittification for you.
ipadification seriously I think new cars today is so ugly. And with that big tablet as a dashboard !
The outside is sexy AF, the inside is ugly AF.
“Wow it looks so cool! Can I sit in it? Oh, it’s just another fucking Tesla…”
Do EV’s have to be ugly? Are they doing this on purpose so you don’t buy them? What’s going on here?
No, the Renault R5 is really good looking. The new BMW i3 Neue Klasse is as well and as it happens looks almost identical to the ICE version even though its on a pure electric platform.
I think the Hyundai Ioniq, the Toyota bZ4X (what an awful name) and the Mazda 6e all look pretty cool. They more or less just look like any other regular ICE car. For some reason the western and Chinese manufacturers keep trying to do something funky and hideous.
I wouldn’t call them beautiful, but yes they are at least passable (except the older ioniq 6’s- don’t like the looks of them). I mean the best of them like the Mazda simply look like average ICE sedans. But it’s sad to see so many manufacturers with track records of making beautiful cars like Audi, Ferrari, and now Jaguar pumping out completely fugly EV’s. I just don’t get it. This is one area Tesla did pretty well. Pity Elon owns it. The one cheaper EV I actually like the looks of is the Smart #1, specifically the grey and red Brabus edition.
They more or less just look like any other regular ICE car.
ice cars are how they are because they basically need to be. I’m an anti car but I’m glad EVs are throwing that shitty design criteria out the window and experimenting.
Chinese cars are how they are because that’s what the biggest car market on the planet wants.
if you want something that is boring and uninspiring, Toyota has your back
I can neither afford nor need one if these but id get one :)
Hyundai’s new V model as well
https://thebeep.com.au/car-news/hyundai-ioniq-v-beijing-debut-australia/
Ioniq and 6e both get massive points taken off for doing the stupid tesla door handles
I kind of like this one. But every time I see I Rivian I have to avert my eyes.
I’ll admit it’s not the worst example taken in isolation, but for heaven’s sake it’s a Jag. It is very likely the ugliest Jaguar ever made.
Oh:
The car of the future was supposed to have pulsating LEDs, self-drive, pursuit mode, turbo boost and an reassuringly patronising personality that would scan for threats and tell you what you were doing wrong. I was supposed to have a chest and head of hair like David Hasselhoff and a rich crime-fighting sugar daddy to fund my escapades.
This is off-white nothingness inside. It leaves me cold.
I’d like to see a video of someone navigating that boat through London.
This car at least has a somewhat unique look to it unlike the Luce; which looks so powerfully generic that it almost doesn’t matter what other features it has.
Or worse, the Ford Mustang Mach-E, which looks like Ford has suddenly started reselling the Tesla Model Y.
The Luce looked exactly like what I imagined the proposed Apple car would look like and nothing like a Ferrari
I think this is a big miss for Jaguar.
It looks like it’s from Batman: The Animated Series which is cool.
Until you realize something that long would be totally impractical.
It’s very much a car for people to be driven around in.
The back doors are far too small for that.
Oh wow, look at those moveable vents in the bottom corners of the bumper, they look great.
High end electric cars will not matter until battery technology advances to the point where those cars can compete with internal combustion engines on a power to weight ratio.
Why does it matter for a car like this? This isn’t even a car you’re supposed to drive. It’s a car you’re supposed to be driven in.
What are you talking about? EV’s have been blowing doors on ICE cars on this metric for a while. A $44k MG 4 Xpower has a better power to weight ratio than a $122k Porsche 911, and beats it off the line by .3 seconds.
What I really meant is the total weight of the car.
EVs weight too much for anything other than drag racing. They are way to heavy for turning and even something simple like a speed bump feel like a violent pothole.
We still don’t have an EV that can be as fun to drive as a Miata.
CATL is said to be developing a 12,000 Wh/Kg battery which is about the same as gasoline. That would make a real EV supercar that would rival a Porsche 911 or a Ferrari.
EVs weight too much for anything other than drag racing.
Most production EVs perform pretty well compared to similarly priced vehicles. Nurburgring records, for example, have plenty of electric cars getting sub-8:00 times, including some that cost less than $50k. Not a lot of street legal ICE vehicles you can say that about.
That’s why I’m talking about the “high end” EVs. Other than fancy interiors, they don’t do much more than the average mid-priced EV.
Look at how the Porche EVs have dropped in price. That’s some Stellantis level of devaluation.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are just moving the goal posts with every post, thinking you have a valid point each time.
You: EVs have bad power to weight ratios.
Reply: EVs have a better power to weight ratio than ICE.
You: Oh, I meant weight only. They can only do drag racing and can’t do turns.
Reply: EVs perform better than ICE at similar price points on road tracks with turns.
You: Oh, I meant only the high end EVs. They aren’t any better than the cheaper EVs.
Reply: High end Porsche EV is faster than most ICE super cars and much faster than cheaper EVs.
You: Oh, but Porsche EVs have bad resale value.
Just accept that you are wrong.
My issue is that nobody cares about EV supercars because mid-priced EV have supercars acceleration.
EV supercars have to bring something other than a nicer interior. They have to really push for cutting edge tech.
There are no expensive EVs that anyone sees as legendary cars like a Bugatti Veyron. People just see them as expensive EV cars.
The fact that Jaguar, a car company, ran an advert that didn’t show a single car will never not be silly.
Also, that thing is ugly.
They don’t know what to do with the face. They’re afraid to go big, so they go bland and call it “understated elegance.” The only clue it’s a Jaguar is if you happen to notice the name on the front. At least the Rolls still looks like a Rolls.
Massive A-pillars. I guess if you can blow $150K on a car, you can afford to hit pedestrians.
It needs those A pillars in case it rolls over otherwise the massive battery pack would crush the occupants.
It’s nearly impossible to flip an electric car because of the weight being so low. You’d have to drive it off a cliff.
True, but there aren’t exemptions for EVs in crash tests
That logo is awful; it looks like it spells “Joovar” from any sort of distance lol
I happen to somewhat like the design, though, just doesn’t look anything like a jag.
