The US is busy figuring out how to charge a monthly subscription for an AI that summarizes emails. China is making the batteries, solar panels, and drones everyone actually needs. At some point Silicon Valley will announce a breakthrough: a chatbot that explains why manufacturing moved overseas.
The US has not only put all their eggs in one basket, they’ve taken out loans against the eggs that those chickens will lay once they’re hatched.
And they’ve promised ostrich eggs, but invested in chicken coops.
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The Chinese play the long game, and play it well. The U.S. is about immediate gain. The future isn’t here, so why worry?
That is actually good news. World shouldn’t be 100% dependent on US technology. I want alternative. So go China, go Japan, go EU, go Canada.
I mean, yeah, but China is worse than the USA so it picking up USA’s share is not better.
I’m rapidly losing faith in the position that China is worse than the US.
Worse in what? For example, China didn’t invade or bomb another country. From a World point of view USA is THE worst country in the world. OK, second worst, nobody can match Israel’s atrocities.
Yes, 100% agree.
The question is if China will do what all prime players do, which is become an empire that enriches itself at the expense of ther rest of the world.
Not being a massive a dick is a good strategy when you’re #2. There are so many companies that do “the right thing” because it gives them a competitive advantage compared to their #1 competitor who is doing the “wrong thing” because they have the dominance to do so, but the instant #2 becomes #1, they adopt #1 strategies.
Perfect example is when X-Box tried to digitize games and limit physical media. Playstation countered with a brutal add on the one-step method to transfer your game to a friend (step 1: give them the game). Now that X-Box has fucked it’s market position, it is Playstation that is pushing to end physical media.
The perfect world is one in which you don’t have to trust anyone, where there is always a healthy ecosystem that gives you options and prevents any one controlling everything to their benefit.
But right now, the world’s biggest problem is not China or Russia: it’s the US.
It isn’t.
The less share of the pie America takes up, the less it can bully other countries into its evil bullshit. So yeah, this is objectively good.
I think their broader point was “it’s good till it isnt”. It feels like you’re looking at China as a savior. When instead it’s a “Oh, I wouldn’t say you’re free… more like under new management” scenario. They’re good till they aren’t, as we’ve seen with Taiwan.
As much as globalization has connected us, we need to still focus on independent sustainability. Does that mean there becomes a lot of redundancies and costs, yes, but it also grants better independence as we’re clearly seeing what happens when a large power turns evil.
How many bombs has China dropped in the last 50 years? How about America?
This is objectively a good thing.
Physical destruction isn’t the only measurement. What has China done to the Uyghurs? More damage than a bomb there. What about Tibetans? Tienamen Square? There is also their indirect support Russia and that definitely does involve bombs. You can’t just brush it off because “they’re not directly dropping them”. Just because it’s not “shock and awe” doesn’t mean there isn’t death and oppression.
Also you think what China has done to the Uyghurs, which is re-education, is worse than bombing them all to death??
Fuck is wrong with you lol?
In all of history, the use of “re-education” has always turned out to be ethnic/cultural genocide.
The US is cooked. China is the new world superpower
Maybe the USA will be able to get rid of the national traitors who do everything to keep the USA in the great 1930 mind- and technology set. It has vast resources and may even be able to catch up from behind.
We tried that during the Biden administration. Investments in chips, bringing back manufacturing, working on our century of deferred infrastructure projects, beginning to invest in the future with renewable energy and starting to do something with education.
Then the pendulum swung violently the other way. We threw it all away. Then went much further back to a dark time that never existed.
One of the reasons for Chinese success is being able to stick to a plan. How can we compete if every four years a new administration takes a bulldozer to any improvements and focuses on enriching himself and his cronies?
The US and its O&G and car industries absolutely let China become the main manufacturer of batteries and EVs.
Like Exxon, the US knew electrification was the future because of climate change, but tried to dismiss it. China seized the opportunity like a true capitalist, while the US government interefered with the free market to hinder electrification. This has been going on for over 20 years now.
China seized the opportunity like a true capitalist, while the US government interefered with the free market to hinder electrification.
Except that also China interefered with the market, just in a different way
China subsidizes electrification while the US subsidizes fossil fuels. Both interfere, but the US in a way that further accelerates global warming.
Last time I checked, China was the biggest polluter with 30% of CO2 produced against the 12% of US, just saying.
Ah but you should also check China’s population vs that of the US, that will put things in perspective. Also check if China’s pollution is due to being a manufacturing hub for other countries that might outsource their own manufacturing. You might be surprised. You can’t pay China to pollute for you and then blame China for polluting for you. Also, the US used to sell many ICE cars to China. The US can’t blame China for polluting if the US pushes pollution sources to China. China has been electrifying to push back against those ICE cars from the US. Polluting to produce solar panels is also much cleaner overall than polluting to produce even more pollution sources.
The US is mag dumping into their own foot.
They elected y’all Qaeda and expected to compete with china. No…the ideology you voted into power puts you on footing with Afghanistan.
Don’t wanna sound like that guy, but this pretty much due to all the manufacturing capacity we shifted over to China. I mean they certainly got a jump start, yeah? It doesn’t hurt that the whole place is a building machine…wonder where they’d be if we never moved all that manufacturing there to begin with…
China has 1 billion more people than the US. And they’re graduating PhDs in STEM at twice the rate.
Frankly, if you don’t expect them to surpass the US in the coming decades, you’d have to be delusional, the numbers bare it out. A billion more people.
Also, currently they have proportionally fewer elders and children. So the adults can fully focus on creating stuff rather than care.
America is not falling behind because y’all are caring too much for each other 🤣
Invest in academia, get the best new tech.
This is not surprising - the west has some serious university investment to do if it wants to catch up!
There’s much more to it than that. If you invent a brilliant new thing that everyone will want… how are you going to make it at scale, at a price people will pay for it? The cheapest, quickest, most efficient way by far would be to make it in China. Sure, maybe you could build the factory and distribution networks in the west, and maybe persuade investors to let you do that, but China will imitate and undercut you astonishing quickly.
Long title just to say “China is only slightly worse than the USA on every metric”.
“Today China is only slightly behind the USA, tomorrow it won’t be.”
There, fixed the title for you. And if you are unable to see it, you are just another close minded boomer who believes China is only copying things from the west and produces only low-quality stuff.
The USA is also at the lowest point it has been in well over a century.
Homer Simpson: the lowest point so far
Nice Edit, Fascist
